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PAUL Baker insists AFC Bournemouth's new owners are doing everything in their power to secure the club's Football League future.
The crisis-hit Dean Court outfit was last night dealt another body blow when Football League officials failed to approve the club's membership application.
Cherries were hoping their plans to exit administration would be given the green light, with the club's Football League share subsequently transferred to the new owners.
However, although the league's board of directors reached agreement in principle on Rotherham, they were not prepared to make a decision on Cherries.
In a statement, the Football League said it was "not yet satisfied with the viability of the new company's proposals and, consequently, it has been asked to reflect further on its position".
The statement, published last night, added that the Football League board would meet today to "consider the matter again".
Cherries chairman Jeff Mostyn has been in dialogue with Football League officials for a number of weeks and was understood to have been dealing with the club's case.
Mostyn, who recently joined forces with Baker and his Sport-6 partner Alastair Saverimutto, was last night unavailable for comment. He is believed to be on holiday in Spain.
Baker issued the following statement to the Daily Echo late last night: "At the beginning of our involvement in the football club, we carried out due diligence on the business and were aware there were several major hurdles to overcome, the transfer of the Football League share being the most important.
"Since taking over the football club, we've been working tirelessly on providing the Football League with the relevant information and were hoping for a decision today.
"Although we are disappointed they haven't been able to reach to a decision, we are also very encouraged that the board will reconvene tomorrow.
"I had a very positive meeting with Gerald Krasner on Tuesday and several issues were discussed. We were quietly confident, but never over confident, that a judgement would be made.
"I would like to assure all our supporters that we are doing everything we possibly can to ensure the share is back with the football club at the earliest opportunity."
Cherries are likely to need to provide assurances to the Football League that they can fulfil their fixtures for the forthcoming season before the share is transferred.
Meanwhile, Rotherham have been deducted 17 points for the start of the new season after failing to exit administration via the necessary Company Voluntary Agreement.
League officials have also given the South Yorkshire club permission to carry on playing their home matches at the Don Valley Stadium in Sheffield, provided a £750,000 bond is paid and they guarantee their return to Rotherham within four years.
Failure to do so would result in the bond being lost and Rotherham being thrown out of the Football League.
7:00am Thursday 7th August 2008
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CommentPosted by: Paul, Christchurch on 7:30am Thu 7 Aug 08
It may be an obvious cheap shot but how the hell can Mostyn go on holiday at this time when these dealings with the league are at a crucial stage? Especially as he is the one who has done the negotiating and preparation for the league thus far.
Is he sat counting his crisp fivers already? Might be too early Jeff....
It may be an obvious cheap shot but how the hell can Mostyn go on holiday at this time when these dealings with the league are at a crucial stage? Especially as he is the one who has done the negotiating and preparation for the league thus far.
Is he sat counting his crisp fivers already? Might be too early Jeff....
Posted by: AFCBade, Croydon on 7:36am Thu 7 Aug 08
Agree with the comment on Mostyn.
However, if there was a viable way forward, it would not be unreasonable to be "over-confident" that that a judgement would be made. "Quietly confident" suggests some possible issues, in which case Mostyn should be around.
Agree with the comment on Mostyn.
However, if there was a viable way forward, it would not be unreasonable to be "over-confident" that that a judgement would be made. "Quietly confident" suggests some possible issues, in which case Mostyn should be around.
Posted by: rcmorgan20, Carlisle, Cumbria on 7:56am Thu 7 Aug 08
Good to see with 48 hours to go untill kick off we have this shambles sorted.......How the hell can the players be focused for saturday...When did we last win our first game of the season? I remember beating Lincoln 2-0 at DC in about 1998....My memory isn't what it was. UTCIAD
Good to see with 48 hours to go untill kick off we have this shambles sorted.......How the hell can the players be focused for saturday...When did we last win our first game of the season? I remember beating Lincoln 2-0 at DC in about 1998....My memory isn't what it was. UTCIAD
Posted by: Leon, dorset on 8:05am Thu 7 Aug 08
"I would like to assure all our supporters" This from someone who has been at the club for what, two weeks? Prove you have the funds (rather than pay for the likes of Directors of football) and maybe you will earn support. Think you will find people support the team not the succession of boards they have had to suffer in the past few years. As for Mostyn........
"I would like to assure all our supporters" This from someone who has been at the club for what, two weeks? Prove you have the funds (rather than pay for the likes of Directors of football) and maybe you will earn support. Think you will find people support the team not the succession of boards they have had to suffer in the past few years. As for Mostyn........
Posted by: muffin the mule, wallisdown on 8:18am Thu 7 Aug 08
now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish
now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish
Posted by: Nick71, Poole on 8:24am Thu 7 Aug 08
The rumour going round is that Sport6 simply haven't put enough cash in. Jeff Mostyn has had almost 6 whole months to take the club out of administration, yet here we are 60 hours to kick off and he still hasn't managed it. Further, when the vital decision is taken and the ticket office is under such strain with season tickets, etc. Jeff Mostyn is "on holiday".
It simply is not good enough.
The rumour going round is that Sport6 simply haven't put enough cash in. Jeff Mostyn has had almost 6 whole months to take the club out of administration, yet here we are 60 hours to kick off and he still hasn't managed it. Further, when the vital decision is taken and the ticket office is under such strain with season tickets, etc. Jeff Mostyn is "on holiday".
It simply is not good enough.
Posted by: Andy_roo on 8:36am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote:
now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish [/quote] It must be hard when your glass is permantly half empty!! Come on Bournemouth
muffin the mule wrote:
now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish
It must be hard when your glass is permantly half empty!! Come on Bournemouth
Posted by: Northcountryboy, Poole on 8:44am Thu 7 Aug 08
I see on BBC.made-upnews.com that there are rumours that Mostyn is in Spain building a 2 up 2 down villa with Richard Carr...
I see on BBC.made-upnews.com that there are rumours that Mostyn is in Spain building a 2 up 2 down villa with Richard Carr...
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 8:48am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote:
now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish [/quote] It's the Football League, how many times it's not the FA and you are saying Mostyn doesn't know what he's doing. Why the sudden surprise over the new proposed owners, those of us with any sense looked into this and said at the time they look problematic at best but oh no it was we should give them a chance don't be so negative and yet here we are. Bond on the other hand has been doing a good job with the squad and I don't agree with your comments on the squad at all, we have bought in the younger players this season and added some experience that we needed, so it's hardly the oldest squad in the league. I do have one question though, why is the Chairman in name in Spain on holiday when the future of the club is being decided, I think this just adds to the reality that he no longer runs things which in itself we should see as a good thing, all I am going to do is keep my fingers crossed, I think we will start the season in admin which I have said for a while and I still think we could yet have different owners which I also said when these guys got involved, so for all those who told me to jump off cliffs etc what have you got to say about this now?
muffin the mule wrote:
now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish
It's the Football League, how many times it's not the FA and you are saying Mostyn doesn't know what he's doing. Why the sudden surprise over the new proposed owners, those of us with any sense looked into this and said at the time they look problematic at best but oh no it was we should give them a chance don't be so negative and yet here we are. Bond on the other hand has been doing a good job with the squad and I don't agree with your comments on the squad at all, we have bought in the younger players this season and added some experience that we needed, so it's hardly the oldest squad in the league. I do have one question though, why is the Chairman in name in Spain on holiday when the future of the club is being decided, I think this just adds to the reality that he no longer runs things which in itself we should see as a good thing, all I am going to do is keep my fingers crossed, I think we will start the season in admin which I have said for a while and I still think we could yet have different owners which I also said when these guys got involved, so for all those who told me to jump off cliffs etc what have you got to say about this now?
Posted by: Nadgor, Spain on 8:57am Thu 7 Aug 08
Obvious answer as to why Mostyns in Spain. He's hiding cos he knew what was going to happen. Sorry just going to buy a season ticket for Dorchester at least I can watch some footie there.
Obvious answer as to why Mostyns in Spain. He's hiding cos he knew what was going to happen. Sorry just going to buy a season ticket for Dorchester at least I can watch some footie there.
Posted by: Nadgor, Spain on 8:59am Thu 7 Aug 08
Perhaps the Echo could contact Mostyn on his mobile or is that asking tooooooo much
Perhaps the Echo could contact Mostyn on his mobile or is that asking tooooooo much
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 9:00am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Nadgor[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps the Echo could contact Mostyn on his mobile or is that asking tooooooo much[/quote] Your in Spain you go talk to him!!!
Nadgor wrote:
Perhaps the Echo could contact Mostyn on his mobile or is that asking tooooooo much
Your in Spain you go talk to him!!!
Posted by: Nadgor, Spain on 9:01am Thu 7 Aug 08
Tell me where it's a big country and I'll go
Tell me where it's a big country and I'll go
Posted by: brock_and_roll, Brock on 9:12am Thu 7 Aug 08
With my lawyers hat on, reading the FL statement I get the impression that it is the ongoing business plan that is the primary issue.
Clearly Sport6 want to get the club for as little as possible but if the league have concerns about the clubs ability to fulfil its fixtures then then the current plan must be very tight. Clearly the new owners's plan needs to show sufficient income/new dosh to pay the wages, costs, and the ground rent - and given that the club is almost certain to record a (substantial) trading loss this year due to lower gates, tv money etc, new dosh will be required. Sport 6 were obviously planning to stick in the bare minimum of thier own cash but the FL want more of a buffer - hence why Sport6 have to "reflect on thier position" - which is commonly used legal jargon for "fu*k off and dont bother coming back until you have given us what we wanted"!!
With my lawyers hat on, reading the FL statement I get the impression that it is the ongoing business plan that is the primary issue.
Clearly Sport6 want to get the club for as little as possible but if the league have concerns about the clubs ability to fulfil its fixtures then then the current plan must be very tight. Clearly the new owners's plan needs to show sufficient income/new dosh to pay the wages, costs, and the ground rent - and given that the club is almost certain to record a (substantial) trading loss this year due to lower gates, tv money etc, new dosh will be required. Sport 6 were obviously planning to stick in the bare minimum of thier own cash but the FL want more of a buffer - hence why Sport6 have to "reflect on thier position" - which is commonly used legal jargon for "fu*k off and dont bother coming back until you have given us what we wanted"!!
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 9:20am Thu 7 Aug 08
AFC Bournemouth Latest 06.08.08
Football League 'Not Satisfied' Re AFC Bournemouth
The Football League this evening announced that they are not willing to make a ruling with regard to the application to return the 'Golden Share. to the club.
The League statement conculded: "The Board is not yet satisfied with the viability of the new company's proposals and consquently it has been asked to reflect further on its position."
The League have now made their rulings on the other two 'distressed clubs' in Division 2. Luton, having been heavily penalised have their share back. Rotherham have been told that they must accept a 17 point deduction, provide a £750,000 bond to ensure they move back to their home town within 4 years and they must pay unsecured creditors an amount equivalent to that offered in the CVA - and that they must agree to the conditions by 12.00 noon Friday 8th August.
But there has not been a decision made regarding AFC bOurnemouth.
The League are specifically challenging the 'viability' of the application. This infers that they do not believe at present that the new company formed to take the club out of administration and into next season can meet conditions that the League are seeking to impose and to fulfill the fixtures for the forthcoming season.
The League have however not dismissed the application and have asked the executives of the new company to respond Thursday (7th August).
Where Does This Leave AFC Bournemouth?
Firstly, this does not sound the death knell for the club. The club has strugled for some time now and the period of administration has been particularly tough. The club has survived this period thanks to the sums paid by various parties, commencing with Jeff Mostyn, significantly with Paul Baker / Sport-6 and even with an amount from Alan Pither and his colleagues (who have indicated that they will take legal action for the return of their monies),
The Sport-6 Role
Many people have speculated on the viability of Sport-6 to take the club forward. It should be noted that the funding provided to date has very much been from Paul Baker. Paul has spoken at length to Buzz over the last two weeks and has made clear his determination to take the club out of administration and on to better things. He and Alastair Saverimutto have continued to negotiate in many areas to secure the club's future and last Friday placed another '6 figure sum' with the administrator. In the fisrt instance, it is down to Paul Baker and Alastair Saverimutto to convince the League that they do have the viability required. THis appears to require a fast and strong response, with them and Paul in particular taking the lead, since it is they that have taken over control from Jeff Mostyn, who was tasked with managing the application to the league for the sake of continuity.
And If The League Are Not Convinced?
It has always been said that there are those 'waiting in the wings'. There have unquestionably been enquiries by other parties and indications by some suitors that they were looking to step in should the current people that have provided funding fail.
In fact, Paul Baker himself has quite naturally continued to seek a stronger position for the club and has made it very clear (and with good evidence) that Sport-6 have engaged with other credible potential investors. He has stated very clearly to Buzz that options are open and that he will continue to act in the best interests of the club.
So the message to fans at present is that this is at the moment 'just' another delay, albeit a crucial one given the time constraints. It is not entirely unexpected, given the obvious struggle for funding during adminaistration and the short amount of time Paul Baker has had to evaluate and act. It remains a huge challenge, but not an insurmountable one. Both Paul Baker and Gerald Krasner do still have options that can save the club. If the viability can be proven (and we believe it is possible), then the club will be playing Division 2 football. As has been staed before, if there is unquestionable evidence that the club can access the necessary funds to underwrite the forthcoming season, the adminsitration period could continue into the season whilst the final formalities are completed.
Our message to fans currently is that recovery is still just about possible.
Up the Cherries!
The latest statement from Buzz, should make for some interesting reading.
AFC Bournemouth Latest 06.08.08
Football League 'Not Satisfied' Re AFC Bournemouth
The Football League this evening announced that they are not willing to make a ruling with regard to the application to return the 'Golden Share. to the club.
The League statement conculded: "The Board is not yet satisfied with the viability of the new company's proposals and consquently it has been asked to reflect further on its position."
The League have now made their rulings on the other two 'distressed clubs' in Division 2. Luton, having been heavily penalised have their share back. Rotherham have been told that they must accept a 17 point deduction, provide a £750,000 bond to ensure they move back to their home town within 4 years and they must pay unsecured creditors an amount equivalent to that offered in the CVA - and that they must agree to the conditions by 12.00 noon Friday 8th August.
But there has not been a decision made regarding AFC bOurnemouth.
The League are specifically challenging the 'viability' of the application. This infers that they do not believe at present that the new company formed to take the club out of administration and into next season can meet conditions that the League are seeking to impose and to fulfill the fixtures for the forthcoming season.
The League have however not dismissed the application and have asked the executives of the new company to respond Thursday (7th August).
Where Does This Leave AFC Bournemouth?
Firstly, this does not sound the death knell for the club. The club has strugled for some time now and the period of administration has been particularly tough. The club has survived this period thanks to the sums paid by various parties, commencing with Jeff Mostyn, significantly with Paul Baker / Sport-6 and even with an amount from Alan Pither and his colleagues (who have indicated that they will take legal action for the return of their monies),
The Sport-6 Role
Many people have speculated on the viability of Sport-6 to take the club forward. It should be noted that the funding provided to date has very much been from Paul Baker. Paul has spoken at length to Buzz over the last two weeks and has made clear his determination to take the club out of administration and on to better things. He and Alastair Saverimutto have continued to negotiate in many areas to secure the club's future and last Friday placed another '6 figure sum' with the administrator. In the fisrt instance, it is down to Paul Baker and Alastair Saverimutto to convince the League that they do have the viability required. THis appears to require a fast and strong response, with them and Paul in particular taking the lead, since it is they that have taken over control from Jeff Mostyn, who was tasked with managing the application to the league for the sake of continuity.
And If The League Are Not Convinced?
It has always been said that there are those 'waiting in the wings'. There have unquestionably been enquiries by other parties and indications by some suitors that they were looking to step in should the current people that have provided funding fail.
In fact, Paul Baker himself has quite naturally continued to seek a stronger position for the club and has made it very clear (and with good evidence) that Sport-6 have engaged with other credible potential investors. He has stated very clearly to Buzz that options are open and that he will continue to act in the best interests of the club.
So the message to fans at present is that this is at the moment 'just' another delay, albeit a crucial one given the time constraints. It is not entirely unexpected, given the obvious struggle for funding during adminaistration and the short amount of time Paul Baker has had to evaluate and act. It remains a huge challenge, but not an insurmountable one. Both Paul Baker and Gerald Krasner do still have options that can save the club. If the viability can be proven (and we believe it is possible), then the club will be playing Division 2 football. As has been staed before, if there is unquestionable evidence that the club can access the necessary funds to underwrite the forthcoming season, the adminsitration period could continue into the season whilst the final formalities are completed.
Our message to fans currently is that recovery is still just about possible.
Up the Cherries!
The latest statement from Buzz, should make for some interesting reading.
Posted by: fieldymex, mexico on 9:23am Thu 7 Aug 08
gmcmahon, why gloat about this situation?
gmcmahon, why gloat about this situation?
Posted by: FletcherTheCat, The Sexy Beast on 9:27am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Nadgor[/bold] wrote:
Tell me where it's a big country and I'll go[/quote] Puerto Banus apparently.
Nadgor wrote:
Tell me where it's a big country and I'll go
Puerto Banus apparently.
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 9:31am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]fieldymex[/bold] wrote:
gmcmahon, why gloat about this situation?
[/quote] I am not gloating, try reading my post properly!!
fieldymex wrote:
gmcmahon, why gloat about this situation?
I am not gloating, try reading my post properly!!
Posted by: muffin the mule, wallisdown on 9:40am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote:
now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish [/quote] It's the Football League, how many times it's not the FA and you are saying Mostyn doesn't know what he's doing. Why the sudden surprise over the new proposed owners, those of us with any sense looked into this and said at the time they look problematic at best but oh no it was we should give them a chance don't be so negative and yet here we are. Bond on the other hand has been doing a good job with the squad and I don't agree with your comments on the squad at all, we have bought in the younger players this season and added some experience that we needed, so it's hardly the oldest squad in the league. I do have one question though, why is the Chairman in name in Spain on holiday when the future of the club is being decided, I think this just adds to the reality that he no longer runs things which in itself we should see as a good thing, all I am going to do is keep my fingers crossed, I think we will start the season in admin which I have said for a while and I still think we could yet have different owners which I also said when these guys got involved, so for all those who told me to jump off cliffs etc what have you got to say about this now?[/quote] keep your hair on it was a typo',but it changes nothing as far as i can see. how can you say Bond is doing a good job with the squad,it is totally unproved - 10 games into the season and you will know what sort of job he has done but it looks to me like half of them are going to be wheezing on the bench for most of the season - your optimism has no realistic basis,its like buying a house from a plan drawing, its a gamble that its going to live up to the sales patter. i dont share your thinking here
GMcMahon wrote:
muffin the mule wrote:
now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish
It's the Football League, how many times it's not the FA and you are saying Mostyn doesn't know what he's doing. Why the sudden surprise over the new proposed owners, those of us with any sense looked into this and said at the time they look problematic at best but oh no it was we should give them a chance don't be so negative and yet here we are. Bond on the other hand has been doing a good job with the squad and I don't agree with your comments on the squad at all, we have bought in the younger players this season and added some experience that we needed, so it's hardly the oldest squad in the league. I do have one question though, why is the Chairman in name in Spain on holiday when the future of the club is being decided, I think this just adds to the reality that he no longer runs things which in itself we should see as a good thing, all I am going to do is keep my fingers crossed, I think we will start the season in admin which I have said for a while and I still think we could yet have different owners which I also said when these guys got involved, so for all those who told me to jump off cliffs etc what have you got to say about this now?
keep your hair on it was a typo',but it changes nothing as far as i can see. how can you say Bond is doing a good job with the squad,it is totally unproved - 10 games into the season and you will know what sort of job he has done but it looks to me like half of them are going to be wheezing on the bench for most of the season - your optimism has no realistic basis,its like buying a house from a plan drawing, its a gamble that its going to live up to the sales patter. i dont share your thinking here
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 9:48am Thu 7 Aug 08
Sport 6 clearly don't have the ability or the funds to take our club forward. If the league grant them the share back today with or without points deduction they won't even get us into the New Year. I have heard on the grapevine that there are serious people waiting in the wings. Krasner may have talked to them. If he has not provided them fair opportunity to save the club and AFCB are booted out of the league then supporters must meet and consider legal steps to appeal to the league and get a full and open enquiry going asap.
I'm sorry guys but the best ting to happen today would be the League refusing the share and then the serious players are invited in by the League and the administrator to present a plan which will be approved and get this club going again.
Sport 6 clearly don't have the ability or the funds to take our club forward. If the league grant them the share back today with or without points deduction they won't even get us into the New Year. I have heard on the grapevine that there are serious people waiting in the wings. Krasner may have talked to them. If he has not provided them fair opportunity to save the club and AFCB are booted out of the league then supporters must meet and consider legal steps to appeal to the league and get a full and open enquiry going asap.
I'm sorry guys but the best ting to happen today would be the League refusing the share and then the serious players are invited in by the League and the administrator to present a plan which will be approved and get this club going again.
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 9:50am Thu 7 Aug 08
Sport 6 clearly don't have the ability or the funds to take our club forward. If the league grant them the share back today with or without points deduction they won't even get us into the New Year. I have heard on the grapevine that there are serious people waiting in the wings. Krasner may have talked to them. If he has not provided them fair opportunity to save the club and AFCB are booted out of the league then supporters must meet and consider legal steps to appeal to the league and get a full and open enquiry going asap.
I'm sorry guys but the best ting to happen today would be the League refusing the share and then the serious players are invited in by the League and the administrator to present a plan which will be approved and get this club going again.
Sport 6 clearly don't have the ability or the funds to take our club forward. If the league grant them the share back today with or without points deduction they won't even get us into the New Year. I have heard on the grapevine that there are serious people waiting in the wings. Krasner may have talked to them. If he has not provided them fair opportunity to save the club and AFCB are booted out of the league then supporters must meet and consider legal steps to appeal to the league and get a full and open enquiry going asap.
I'm sorry guys but the best ting to happen today would be the League refusing the share and then the serious players are invited in by the League and the administrator to present a plan which will be approved and get this club going again.
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 9:56am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote:
now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish [/quote] It's the Football League, how many times it's not the FA and you are saying Mostyn doesn't know what he's doing. Why the sudden surprise over the new proposed owners, those of us with any sense looked into this and said at the time they look problematic at best but oh no it was we should give them a chance don't be so negative and yet here we are. Bond on the other hand has been doing a good job with the squad and I don't agree with your comments on the squad at all, we have bought in the younger players this season and added some experience that we needed, so it's hardly the oldest squad in the league. I do have one question though, why is the Chairman in name in Spain on holiday when the future of the club is being decided, I think this just adds to the reality that he no longer runs things which in itself we should see as a good thing, all I am going to do is keep my fingers crossed, I think we will start the season in admin which I have said for a while and I still think we could yet have different owners which I also said when these guys got involved, so for all those who told me to jump off cliffs etc what have you got to say about this now?[/quote] keep your hair on it was a typo',but it changes nothing as far as i can see. how can you say Bond is doing a good job with the squad,it is totally unproved - 10 games into the season and you will know what sort of job he has done but it looks to me like half of them are going to be wheezing on the bench for most of the season - your optimism has no realistic basis,its like buying a house from a plan drawing, its a gamble that its going to live up to the sales patter. i dont share your thinking here [/quote] FA or the Football League, that's one hell of a typo, has different words and everything d'oh!!!!
muffin the mule wrote:
GMcMahon wrote:
muffin the mule wrote:
now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish
It's the Football League, how many times it's not the FA and you are saying Mostyn doesn't know what he's doing. Why the sudden surprise over the new proposed owners, those of us with any sense looked into this and said at the time they look problematic at best but oh no it was we should give them a chance don't be so negative and yet here we are. Bond on the other hand has been doing a good job with the squad and I don't agree with your comments on the squad at all, we have bought in the younger players this season and added some experience that we needed, so it's hardly the oldest squad in the league. I do have one question though, why is the Chairman in name in Spain on holiday when the future of the club is being decided, I think this just adds to the reality that he no longer runs things which in itself we should see as a good thing, all I am going to do is keep my fingers crossed, I think we will start the season in admin which I have said for a while and I still think we could yet have different owners which I also said when these guys got involved, so for all those who told me to jump off cliffs etc what have you got to say about this now?
keep your hair on it was a typo',but it changes nothing as far as i can see. how can you say Bond is doing a good job with the squad,it is totally unproved - 10 games into the season and you will know what sort of job he has done but it looks to me like half of them are going to be wheezing on the bench for most of the season - your optimism has no realistic basis,its like buying a house from a plan drawing, its a gamble that its going to live up to the sales patter. i dont share your thinking here
FA or the Football League, that's one hell of a typo, has different words and everything d'oh!!!!
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 9:59am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote:
now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish [/quote] It's the Football League, how many times it's not the FA and you are saying Mostyn doesn't know what he's doing. Why the sudden surprise over the new proposed owners, those of us with any sense looked into this and said at the time they look problematic at best but oh no it was we should give them a chance don't be so negative and yet here we are. Bond on the other hand has been doing a good job with the squad and I don't agree with your comments on the squad at all, we have bought in the younger players this season and added some experience that we needed, so it's hardly the oldest squad in the league. I do have one question though, why is the Chairman in name in Spain on holiday when the future of the club is being decided, I think this just adds to the reality that he no longer runs things which in itself we should see as a good thing, all I am going to do is keep my fingers crossed, I think we will start the season in admin which I have said for a while and I still think we could yet have different owners which I also said when these guys got involved, so for all those who told me to jump off cliffs etc what have you got to say about this now?[/quote] keep your hair on it was a typo',but it changes nothing as far as i can see. how can you say Bond is doing a good job with the squad,it is totally unproved - 10 games into the season and you will know what sort of job he has done but it looks to me like half of them are going to be wheezing on the bench for most of the season - your optimism has no realistic basis,its like buying a house from a plan drawing, its a gamble that its going to live up to the sales patter. i dont share your thinking here [/quote] SO that applies to every team in the country then, all teams bring in players close season and start the season with these players, what is so different with the cherries? the bulk of the team is the same as last season and Bond has bought in players to strengthen where needed so I woulds say the side is pretty well tested, oh and pre season you may have noticed they played some good football and the new players looked to improve the team so really what are you basing you argument on?
muffin the mule wrote:
GMcMahon wrote:
muffin the mule wrote:
now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish
It's the Football League, how many times it's not the FA and you are saying Mostyn doesn't know what he's doing. Why the sudden surprise over the new proposed owners, those of us with any sense looked into this and said at the time they look problematic at best but oh no it was we should give them a chance don't be so negative and yet here we are. Bond on the other hand has been doing a good job with the squad and I don't agree with your comments on the squad at all, we have bought in the younger players this season and added some experience that we needed, so it's hardly the oldest squad in the league. I do have one question though, why is the Chairman in name in Spain on holiday when the future of the club is being decided, I think this just adds to the reality that he no longer runs things which in itself we should see as a good thing, all I am going to do is keep my fingers crossed, I think we will start the season in admin which I have said for a while and I still think we could yet have different owners which I also said when these guys got involved, so for all those who told me to jump off cliffs etc what have you got to say about this now?
keep your hair on it was a typo',but it changes nothing as far as i can see. how can you say Bond is doing a good job with the squad,it is totally unproved - 10 games into the season and you will know what sort of job he has done but it looks to me like half of them are going to be wheezing on the bench for most of the season - your optimism has no realistic basis,its like buying a house from a plan drawing, its a gamble that its going to live up to the sales patter. i dont share your thinking here
SO that applies to every team in the country then, all teams bring in players close season and start the season with these players, what is so different with the cherries? the bulk of the team is the same as last season and Bond has bought in players to strengthen where needed so I woulds say the side is pretty well tested, oh and pre season you may have noticed they played some good football and the new players looked to improve the team so really what are you basing you argument on?
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 10:02am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Sport 6 clearly don't have the ability or the funds to take our club forward. If the league grant them the share back today with or without points deduction they won't even get us into the New Year. I have heard on the grapevine that there are serious people waiting in the wings. Krasner may have talked to them. If he has not provided them fair opportunity to save the club and AFCB are booted out of the league then supporters must meet and consider legal steps to appeal to the league and get a full and open enquiry going asap.
I'm sorry guys but the best ting to happen today would be the League refusing the share and then the serious players are invited in by the League and the administrator to present a plan which will be approved and get this club going again.[/quote] Another advert for Mr Swann I see, why keep saying people in the wings we know who they are and if they are so great why the problems with Swann and his not being able to be a director of a new company until May 2009, come on Agar we know what you are up to, been at it all summer.
AFCB The Only wrote:
Sport 6 clearly don't have the ability or the funds to take our club forward. If the league grant them the share back today with or without points deduction they won't even get us into the New Year. I have heard on the grapevine that there are serious people waiting in the wings. Krasner may have talked to them. If he has not provided them fair opportunity to save the club and AFCB are booted out of the league then supporters must meet and consider legal steps to appeal to the league and get a full and open enquiry going asap.
I'm sorry guys but the best ting to happen today would be the League refusing the share and then the serious players are invited in by the League and the administrator to present a plan which will be approved and get this club going again.
Another advert for Mr Swann I see, why keep saying people in the wings we know who they are and if they are so great why the problems with Swann and his not being able to be a director of a new company until May 2009, come on Agar we know what you are up to, been at it all summer.
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 10:08am Thu 7 Aug 08
I think muffin the mule, what!!! I made my point quite clearly, where as you seem to want the side to fail, so why? if anyone needs to clarify themselves tis' you.
I think muffin the mule, what!!! I made my point quite clearly, where as you seem to want the side to fail, so why? if anyone needs to clarify themselves tis' you.
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 10:14am Thu 7 Aug 08
Hi Fetch the cat "A who"? As I said still time for better people to step in, give the league some cred, the will know if there are serious people ready b4 chucking the club out.
Hi Fetch the cat "A who"? As I said still time for better people to step in, give the league some cred, the will know if there are serious people ready b4 chucking the club out.
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 10:16am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Hi Fetch the cat "A who"? As I said still time for better people to step in, give the league some cred, the will know if there are serious people ready b4 chucking the club out.[/quote] Someone else who doesn't answer the questions put to them!!!
AFCB The Only wrote:
Hi Fetch the cat "A who"? As I said still time for better people to step in, give the league some cred, the will know if there are serious people ready b4 chucking the club out.
Someone else who doesn't answer the questions put to them!!!
Posted by: muffin the mule, wallisdown on 10:18am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
I think muffin the mule, what!!! I made my point quite clearly, where as you seem to want the side to fail, so why? if anyone needs to clarify themselves tis' you. [/quote] Sorry,but i am not blinded by the light ,i have seen the issues unfold over the last 6 months just as you have and can you say that we are any further forward ? on the contrary we appear to be going rapidly in reverse .the lack of information suggests things are not well ,that we are not getting the facts and if you was on a jury looking at a murder you would find them guilty - what is there in all the evidence we've heard that says this team is moving positively forward ? sounds to me like you are a mug ! i'm not ...show me the bacon sandwich i'm fed up listening to the sizzle and getting a whiff occassionaly. its uninvestable in its current form and the FL have told them so
GMcMahon wrote:
I think muffin the mule, what!!! I made my point quite clearly, where as you seem to want the side to fail, so why? if anyone needs to clarify themselves tis' you.
Sorry,but i am not blinded by the light ,i have seen the issues unfold over the last 6 months just as you have and can you say that we are any further forward ? on the contrary we appear to be going rapidly in reverse .the lack of information suggests things are not well ,that we are not getting the facts and if you was on a jury looking at a murder you would find them guilty - what is there in all the evidence we've heard that says this team is moving positively forward ? sounds to me like you are a mug ! i'm not ...show me the bacon sandwich i'm fed up listening to the sizzle and getting a whiff occassionaly. its uninvestable in its current form and the FL have told them so
Posted by: FletcherTheCat, The Sexy Beast on 10:18am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Hi Fetch the cat "A who"? As I said still time for better people to step in, give the league some cred, the will know if there are serious people ready b4 chucking the club out.[/quote] Tosh.
The League are itching to kick a club out.
Either this is all sorted by noon tomorrow, or we've got to find something else to do on Saturday afternoon.
There is no time for any other option.
AFCB The Only wrote:
Hi Fetch the cat "A who"? As I said still time for better people to step in, give the league some cred, the will know if there are serious people ready b4 chucking the club out.
Tosh.
The League are itching to kick a club out.
Either this is all sorted by noon tomorrow, or we've got to find something else to do on Saturday afternoon.
There is no time for any other option.
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 10:34am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
I think muffin the mule, what!!! I made my point quite clearly, where as you seem to want the side to fail, so why? if anyone needs to clarify themselves tis' you. [/quote] Sorry,but i am not blinded by the light ,i have seen the issues unfold over the last 6 months just as you have and can you say that we are any further forward ? on the contrary we appear to be going rapidly in reverse .the lack of information suggests things are not well ,that we are not getting the facts and if you was on a jury looking at a murder you would find them guilty - what is there in all the evidence we've heard that says this team is moving positively forward ? sounds to me like you are a mug ! i'm not ...show me the bacon sandwich i'm fed up listening to the sizzle and getting a whiff occassionaly. its uninvestable in its current form and the FL have told them so[/quote] What does any of this mean for starters? and also what has it got to do with how well the team will play in league2? The team is what you referred to not the new owners who if you know anything about my posts should know I am no mug, so you still say nothing that makes any sense, the team is basically the same as last season we let go players that were no good, sold Vokes and Gowling was always going to leave, but we have bought in a decent defender that we needed at this level, a goalkeeper who is wanting to prove himself and is young, and Igoe who still has plenty to offer if the pre season is anything to go by, so where is this team of old crocks you are on about? The owners is one thing but I cannot see anything in what you are saying that is even close to reality when it comes to the team, also if you are a cherries fan why such a downer on the team, you are saying no one would invest in them, where do you get that from? it's well known the interest in the club form other sources, have you actually looked at any of whats going on or are you making this up as you go along?
muffin the mule wrote:
GMcMahon wrote:
I think muffin the mule, what!!! I made my point quite clearly, where as you seem to want the side to fail, so why? if anyone needs to clarify themselves tis' you.
Sorry,but i am not blinded by the light ,i have seen the issues unfold over the last 6 months just as you have and can you say that we are any further forward ? on the contrary we appear to be going rapidly in reverse .the lack of information suggests things are not well ,that we are not getting the facts and if you was on a jury looking at a murder you would find them guilty - what is there in all the evidence we've heard that says this team is moving positively forward ? sounds to me like you are a mug ! i'm not ...show me the bacon sandwich i'm fed up listening to the sizzle and getting a whiff occassionaly. its uninvestable in its current form and the FL have told them so
What does any of this mean for starters? and also what has it got to do with how well the team will play in league2? The team is what you referred to not the new owners who if you know anything about my posts should know I am no mug, so you still say nothing that makes any sense, the team is basically the same as last season we let go players that were no good, sold Vokes and Gowling was always going to leave, but we have bought in a decent defender that we needed at this level, a goalkeeper who is wanting to prove himself and is young, and Igoe who still has plenty to offer if the pre season is anything to go by, so where is this team of old crocks you are on about? The owners is one thing but I cannot see anything in what you are saying that is even close to reality when it comes to the team, also if you are a cherries fan why such a downer on the team, you are saying no one would invest in them, where do you get that from? it's well known the interest in the club form other sources, have you actually looked at any of whats going on or are you making this up as you go along?
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 10:46am Thu 7 Aug 08
What a surprise as soon as I mention Swann my post start vanishing, this site is getting worse and worse, god forbid you should mention anything about that..
What a surprise as soon as I mention Swann my post start vanishing, this site is getting worse and worse, god forbid you should mention anything about that..
Posted by: paul, Wimborne on 10:49am Thu 7 Aug 08
CALM DOWN EVERYONE, DONT TAKE THE ECHO LITERALLY. ITS PROBABLY A MINOR HICKUP WHICH HAS BEEN TURNED INTO A DISASTER BY THE PRESS!!! (ITS CALLED EXAGGERATION TO GET A GOOD STORY)
CALM DOWN EVERYONE, DONT TAKE THE ECHO LITERALLY. ITS PROBABLY A MINOR HICKUP WHICH HAS BEEN TURNED INTO A DISASTER BY THE PRESS!!! (ITS CALLED EXAGGERATION TO GET A GOOD STORY)
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 10:50am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]paul[/bold] wrote:
CALM DOWN EVERYONE, DONT TAKE THE ECHO LITERALLY. ITS PROBABLY A MINOR HICKUP WHICH HAS BEEN TURNED INTO A DISASTER BY THE PRESS!!! (ITS CALLED EXAGGERATION TO GET A GOOD STORY)[/quote] Wish that was the case but it was the statement from the league last night.....
paul wrote:
CALM DOWN EVERYONE, DONT TAKE THE ECHO LITERALLY. ITS PROBABLY A MINOR HICKUP WHICH HAS BEEN TURNED INTO A DISASTER BY THE PRESS!!! (ITS CALLED EXAGGERATION TO GET A GOOD STORY)
Wish that was the case but it was the statement from the league last night.....
Posted by: In Absentia, Bournemouth on 10:56am Thu 7 Aug 08
Personally I think that the FL wanted to give AFCB a wake-up call yesterday and clearly did so. I think they'll let us start the season with a deadline set to get out of Administration in a few months time.
If Rotherham got a 17 point deduction, then we're not going to be far away from the same fate ourselves.
Long term, I really don't see these new owners doing a great deal with the club, they're Chester City fans after all and 'Sav' comes from an egg-chasing background with no real football track-record.
The way AFCB fans have been treated over the last 12 months has honestly left me at the point where indifference is starting to set in.
I also thought that Kevin Bond's cosy little appearance on South Today last night was a waste of airtime.
Personally I think that the FL wanted to give AFCB a wake-up call yesterday and clearly did so. I think they'll let us start the season with a deadline set to get out of Administration in a few months time.
If Rotherham got a 17 point deduction, then we're not going to be far away from the same fate ourselves.
Long term, I really don't see these new owners doing a great deal with the club, they're Chester City fans after all and 'Sav' comes from an egg-chasing background with no real football track-record.
The way AFCB fans have been treated over the last 12 months has honestly left me at the point where indifference is starting to set in.
I also thought that Kevin Bond's cosy little appearance on South Today last night was a waste of airtime.
Posted by: fieldymex, mexico on 10:57am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote: now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish [/quote] It's the Football League, how many times it's not the FA and you are saying Mostyn doesn't know what he's doing. Why the sudden surprise over the new proposed owners, those of us with any sense looked into this and said at the time they look problematic at best but oh no it was we should give them a chance don't be so negative and yet here we are. Bond on the other hand has been doing a good job with the squad and I don't agree with your comments on the squad at all, we have bought in the younger players this season and added some experience that we needed, so it's hardly the oldest squad in the league. I do have one question though, why is the Chairman in name in Spain on holiday when the future of the club is being decided, I think this just adds to the reality that he no longer runs things which in itself we should see as a good thing, all I am going to do is keep my fingers crossed, I think we will start the season in admin which I have said for a while and I still think we could yet have different owners which I also said when these guys got involved, so for all those who told me to jump off cliffs etc what have you got to say about this now?[/quote] Gloating!! if this isn't saying i told you so just to try and make yourself look important and clever then i suggest you remove 2/3 of the post. and now you're just trying to argue with someone who is just saying their own perfectly valid opinion. get a life.
GMcMahon wrote:
muffin the mule wrote: now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish
It's the Football League, how many times it's not the FA and you are saying Mostyn doesn't know what he's doing. Why the sudden surprise over the new proposed owners, those of us with any sense looked into this and said at the time they look problematic at best but oh no it was we should give them a chance don't be so negative and yet here we are. Bond on the other hand has been doing a good job with the squad and I don't agree with your comments on the squad at all, we have bought in the younger players this season and added some experience that we needed, so it's hardly the oldest squad in the league. I do have one question though, why is the Chairman in name in Spain on holiday when the future of the club is being decided, I think this just adds to the reality that he no longer runs things which in itself we should see as a good thing, all I am going to do is keep my fingers crossed, I think we will start the season in admin which I have said for a while and I still think we could yet have different owners which I also said when these guys got involved, so for all those who told me to jump off cliffs etc what have you got to say about this now?
Gloating!! if this isn't saying i told you so just to try and make yourself look important and clever then i suggest you remove 2/3 of the post. and now you're just trying to argue with someone who is just saying their own perfectly valid opinion. get a life.
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 10:57am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
I think muffin the mule, what!!! I made my point quite clearly, where as you seem to want the side to fail, so why? if anyone needs to clarify themselves tis' you. [/quote] Sorry,but i am not blinded by the light ,i have seen the issues unfold over the last 6 months just as you have and can you say that we are any further forward ? on the contrary we appear to be going rapidly in reverse .the lack of information suggests things are not well ,that we are not getting the facts and if you was on a jury looking at a murder you would find them guilty - what is there in all the evidence we've heard that says this team is moving positively forward ? sounds to me like you are a mug ! i'm not ...show me the bacon sandwich i'm fed up listening to the sizzle and getting a whiff occassionaly. its uninvestable in its current form and the FL have told them so[/quote] What does any of this mean for starters? and also what has it got to do with how well the team will play in league2? The team is what you referred to not the new owners who if you know anything about my posts should know I am no mug, so you still say nothing that makes any sense, the team is basically the same as last season we let go players that were no good, sold Vokes and Gowling was always going to leave, but we have bought in a decent defender that we needed at this level, a goalkeeper who is wanting to prove himself and is young, and Igoe who still has plenty to offer if the pre season is anything to go by, so where is this team of old crocks you are on about? The owners is one thing but I cannot see anything in what you are saying that is even close to reality when it comes to the team, also if you are a cherries fan why such a downer on the team, you are saying no one would invest in them, where do you get that from? it's well known the interest in the club form other sources, have you actually looked at any of whats going on or are you making this up as you go along?[/quote] so where are all these investors who are apparently 'hiding in the wings' - thats bull sh*t,if you havent seen them for 6 months you never will ,its all speculation .
you are no more qualified to assess this team than i am - out there on the pitch is where Bonds descisions will be tested,however my personal view,and i am perfectly entitled to that,is that this team is a mash up,it is missing the better elements of last season and the hype is not going to match the reality ...thats MY oppinion,nothing more.
the FL who have all the facts have said that in its current form the proposal is not viable - now that is not speculation and i choose to believe them rather than you . i am always open to having my mind changed but that isnt about to happen just now [/quote] And you call yourself a supporter, as for the people waiting in the wings that is true, if you took the time to look into things rather than finding arguments to slag off the team then you would know, try the forums and you will get more of an idea, I have not said anything about the financial state of the club being rosie so you are way off the mark there, I have said ever since sport6 were involved that they had no money etc, just look at my post earlier today, I was being accused of gloating because I said they didn't have the money to take the club forward, and yet you are saying I think it's going to work out just fine, try reading the posts first and indeed the forums then you will have a better idea as to what is going on. I still cannot see anyone who is a supporter of this club being so negative about the team, if that is your opinion of them then you are entitled to it, I could never say things like that about the cherries it just doesn't make sense.
muffin the mule wrote:
GMcMahon wrote:
muffin the mule wrote:
GMcMahon wrote:
I think muffin the mule, what!!! I made my point quite clearly, where as you seem to want the side to fail, so why? if anyone needs to clarify themselves tis' you.
Sorry,but i am not blinded by the light ,i have seen the issues unfold over the last 6 months just as you have and can you say that we are any further forward ? on the contrary we appear to be going rapidly in reverse .the lack of information suggests things are not well ,that we are not getting the facts and if you was on a jury looking at a murder you would find them guilty - what is there in all the evidence we've heard that says this team is moving positively forward ? sounds to me like you are a mug ! i'm not ...show me the bacon sandwich i'm fed up listening to the sizzle and getting a whiff occassionaly. its uninvestable in its current form and the FL have told them so
What does any of this mean for starters? and also what has it got to do with how well the team will play in league2? The team is what you referred to not the new owners who if you know anything about my posts should know I am no mug, so you still say nothing that makes any sense, the team is basically the same as last season we let go players that were no good, sold Vokes and Gowling was always going to leave, but we have bought in a decent defender that we needed at this level, a goalkeeper who is wanting to prove himself and is young, and Igoe who still has plenty to offer if the pre season is anything to go by, so where is this team of old crocks you are on about? The owners is one thing but I cannot see anything in what you are saying that is even close to reality when it comes to the team, also if you are a cherries fan why such a downer on the team, you are saying no one would invest in them, where do you get that from? it's well known the interest in the club form other sources, have you actually looked at any of whats going on or are you making this up as you go along?
so where are all these investors who are apparently 'hiding in the wings' - thats bull sh*t,if you havent seen them for 6 months you never will ,its all speculation .
you are no more qualified to assess this team than i am - out there on the pitch is where Bonds descisions will be tested,however my personal view,and i am perfectly entitled to that,is that this team is a mash up,it is missing the better elements of last season and the hype is not going to match the reality ...thats MY oppinion,nothing more.
the FL who have all the facts have said that in its current form the proposal is not viable - now that is not speculation and i choose to believe them rather than you . i am always open to having my mind changed but that isnt about to happen just now
And you call yourself a supporter, as for the people waiting in the wings that is true, if you took the time to look into things rather than finding arguments to slag off the team then you would know, try the forums and you will get more of an idea, I have not said anything about the financial state of the club being rosie so you are way off the mark there, I have said ever since sport6 were involved that they had no money etc, just look at my post earlier today, I was being accused of gloating because I said they didn't have the money to take the club forward, and yet you are saying I think it's going to work out just fine, try reading the posts first and indeed the forums then you will have a better idea as to what is going on. I still cannot see anyone who is a supporter of this club being so negative about the team, if that is your opinion of them then you are entitled to it, I could never say things like that about the cherries it just doesn't make sense.
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 10:59am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]fieldymex[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote: now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish [/quote] It's the Football League, how many times it's not the FA and you are saying Mostyn doesn't know what he's doing. Why the sudden surprise over the new proposed owners, those of us with any sense looked into this and said at the time they look problematic at best but oh no it was we should give them a chance don't be so negative and yet here we are. Bond on the other hand has been doing a good job with the squad and I don't agree with your comments on the squad at all, we have bought in the younger players this season and added some experience that we needed, so it's hardly the oldest squad in the league. I do have one question though, why is the Chairman in name in Spain on holiday when the future of the club is being decided, I think this just adds to the reality that he no longer runs things which in itself we should see as a good thing, all I am going to do is keep my fingers crossed, I think we will start the season in admin which I have said for a while and I still think we could yet have different owners which I also said when these guys got involved, so for all those who told me to jump off cliffs etc what have you got to say about this now?[/quote] Gloating!! if this isn't saying i told you so just to try and make yourself look important and clever then i suggest you remove 2/3 of the post. and now you're just trying to argue with someone who is just saying their own perfectly valid opinion. get a life.[/quote] Well thanks for posting that point again as the other person you say I am arguing with thinks I am saying it's all just wonderful at the club, what a joke it is on here.
fieldymex wrote:
GMcMahon wrote:
muffin the mule wrote: now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish
It's the Football League, how many times it's not the FA and you are saying Mostyn doesn't know what he's doing. Why the sudden surprise over the new proposed owners, those of us with any sense looked into this and said at the time they look problematic at best but oh no it was we should give them a chance don't be so negative and yet here we are. Bond on the other hand has been doing a good job with the squad and I don't agree with your comments on the squad at all, we have bought in the younger players this season and added some experience that we needed, so it's hardly the oldest squad in the league. I do have one question though, why is the Chairman in name in Spain on holiday when the future of the club is being decided, I think this just adds to the reality that he no longer runs things which in itself we should see as a good thing, all I am going to do is keep my fingers crossed, I think we will start the season in admin which I have said for a while and I still think we could yet have different owners which I also said when these guys got involved, so for all those who told me to jump off cliffs etc what have you got to say about this now?
Gloating!! if this isn't saying i told you so just to try and make yourself look important and clever then i suggest you remove 2/3 of the post. and now you're just trying to argue with someone who is just saying their own perfectly valid opinion. get a life.
Well thanks for posting that point again as the other person you say I am arguing with thinks I am saying it's all just wonderful at the club, what a joke it is on here.
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 11:01am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]fieldymex[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote: now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish [/quote] It's the Football League, how many times it's not the FA and you are saying Mostyn doesn't know what he's doing. Why the sudden surprise over the new proposed owners, those of us with any sense looked into this and said at the time they look problematic at best but oh no it was we should give them a chance don't be so negative and yet here we are. Bond on the other hand has been doing a good job with the squad and I don't agree with your comments on the squad at all, we have bought in the younger players this season and added some experience that we needed, so it's hardly the oldest squad in the league. I do have one question though, why is the Chairman in name in Spain on holiday when the future of the club is being decided, I think this just adds to the reality that he no longer runs things which in itself we should see as a good thing, all I am going to do is keep my fingers crossed, I think we will start the season in admin which I have said for a while and I still think we could yet have different owners which I also said when these guys got involved, so for all those who told me to jump off cliffs etc what have you got to say about this now?[/quote] Gloating!! if this isn't saying i told you so just to try and make yourself look important and clever then i suggest you remove 2/3 of the post. and now you're just trying to argue with someone who is just saying their own perfectly valid opinion. get a life.[/quote] Also it's a perfectly valid point to call the team a load of has beens is it, well sorry but I will defend the club on that argument and I will never accept that as an opinion of the team, why would anyone think that of their own team?
fieldymex wrote:
GMcMahon wrote:
muffin the mule wrote: now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish
It's the Football League, how many times it's not the FA and you are saying Mostyn doesn't know what he's doing. Why the sudden surprise over the new proposed owners, those of us with any sense looked into this and said at the time they look problematic at best but oh no it was we should give them a chance don't be so negative and yet here we are. Bond on the other hand has been doing a good job with the squad and I don't agree with your comments on the squad at all, we have bought in the younger players this season and added some experience that we needed, so it's hardly the oldest squad in the league. I do have one question though, why is the Chairman in name in Spain on holiday when the future of the club is being decided, I think this just adds to the reality that he no longer runs things which in itself we should see as a good thing, all I am going to do is keep my fingers crossed, I think we will start the season in admin which I have said for a while and I still think we could yet have different owners which I also said when these guys got involved, so for all those who told me to jump off cliffs etc what have you got to say about this now?
Gloating!! if this isn't saying i told you so just to try and make yourself look important and clever then i suggest you remove 2/3 of the post. and now you're just trying to argue with someone who is just saying their own perfectly valid opinion. get a life.
Also it's a perfectly valid point to call the team a load of has beens is it, well sorry but I will defend the club on that argument and I will never accept that as an opinion of the team, why would anyone think that of their own team?
Posted by: paul, Wimborne on 11:07am Thu 7 Aug 08
FOOTBALL LEAGUE HEY, THEY'LL TRY ANYTHING TO GET RID OF US, JUST BECAUSE THEY DONT LIVE BY THE SEA IN THE BEST PART OF THE COUNTRY........
FOOTBALL LEAGUE HEY, THEY'LL TRY ANYTHING TO GET RID OF US, JUST BECAUSE THEY DONT LIVE BY THE SEA IN THE BEST PART OF THE COUNTRY........
Posted by: Leon, dorset on 11:07am Thu 7 Aug 08
If Sport 6 are borrowing money and spending sponsorship trying to satisfy the FL. Where does that leave the club, deeper in debt a little down the line?
If Sport 6 are borrowing money and spending sponsorship trying to satisfy the FL. Where does that leave the club, deeper in debt a little down the line?
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 11:09am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Leon[/bold] wrote:
If Sport 6 are borrowing money and spending sponsorship trying to satisfy the FL. Where does that leave the club, deeper in debt a little down the line? [/quote] Certainly takes away investment money from the team that so many on here think is past it.
Leon wrote:
If Sport 6 are borrowing money and spending sponsorship trying to satisfy the FL. Where does that leave the club, deeper in debt a little down the line?
Certainly takes away investment money from the team that so many on here think is past it.
Posted by: muffin the mule, wallisdown on 11:14am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]fieldymex[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote: now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish [/quote] It's the Football League, how many times it's not the FA and you are saying Mostyn doesn't know what he's doing. Why the sudden surprise over the new proposed owners, those of us with any sense looked into this and said at the time they look problematic at best but oh no it was we should give them a chance don't be so negative and yet here we are. Bond on the other hand has been doing a good job with the squad and I don't agree with your comments on the squad at all, we have bought in the younger players this season and added some experience that we needed, so it's hardly the oldest squad in the league. I do have one question though, why is the Chairman in name in Spain on holiday when the future of the club is being decided, I think this just adds to the reality that he no longer runs things which in itself we should see as a good thing, all I am going to do is keep my fingers crossed, I think we will start the season in admin which I have said for a while and I still think we could yet have different owners which I also said when these guys got involved, so for all those who told me to jump off cliffs etc what have you got to say about this now?[/quote] Gloating!! if this isn't saying i told you so just to try and make yourself look important and clever then i suggest you remove 2/3 of the post. and now you're just trying to argue with someone who is just saying their own perfectly valid opinion. get a life.[/quote] Also it's a perfectly valid point to call the team a load of has beens is it, well sorry but I will defend the club on that argument and I will never accept that as an opinion of the team, why would anyone think that of their own team?[/quote] it is not our team its just the odds and sods that Bond can scratch together for an attempt at playing a game of football on saturday.by 6 o'clock on saturday you'll know how valid your faith is .... i wish you luck
GMcMahon wrote:
fieldymex wrote:
GMcMahon wrote:
muffin the mule wrote: now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish
It's the Football League, how many times it's not the FA and you are saying Mostyn doesn't know what he's doing. Why the sudden surprise over the new proposed owners, those of us with any sense looked into this and said at the time they look problematic at best but oh no it was we should give them a chance don't be so negative and yet here we are. Bond on the other hand has been doing a good job with the squad and I don't agree with your comments on the squad at all, we have bought in the younger players this season and added some experience that we needed, so it's hardly the oldest squad in the league. I do have one question though, why is the Chairman in name in Spain on holiday when the future of the club is being decided, I think this just adds to the reality that he no longer runs things which in itself we should see as a good thing, all I am going to do is keep my fingers crossed, I think we will start the season in admin which I have said for a while and I still think we could yet have different owners which I also said when these guys got involved, so for all those who told me to jump off cliffs etc what have you got to say about this now?
Gloating!! if this isn't saying i told you so just to try and make yourself look important and clever then i suggest you remove 2/3 of the post. and now you're just trying to argue with someone who is just saying their own perfectly valid opinion. get a life.
Also it's a perfectly valid point to call the team a load of has beens is it, well sorry but I will defend the club on that argument and I will never accept that as an opinion of the team, why would anyone think that of their own team?
it is not our team its just the odds and sods that Bond can scratch together for an attempt at playing a game of football on saturday.by 6 o'clock on saturday you'll know how valid your faith is .... i wish you luck
Posted by: johnpeek, Bournemouth on 12:32pm Thu 7 Aug 08
All very interesting, but now try getting your season ticket. Just got mine, but suggest you take warm clothing and a primus!!
All very interesting, but now try getting your season ticket. Just got mine, but suggest you take warm clothing and a primus!!
Posted by: FletcherTheCat, The Sexy Beast on 12:37pm Thu 7 Aug 08
So where did the other 12 comments go then Echo?
Pfft. Don't like free speech here do they...
So where did the other 12 comments go then Echo?
Pfft. Don't like free speech here do they...
Posted by: Hugh, Wimborne on 12:37pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Investors in the wings. I have heard it all before. Many have come with money but it was all an ego trip. Face facts not many people want to give money away these days. We must stick with the present gang and hope. We have no other options around!
Investors in the wings. I have heard it all before. Many have come with money but it was all an ego trip. Face facts not many people want to give money away these days. We must stick with the present gang and hope. We have no other options around!
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 12:42pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]fieldymex[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote: now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish [/quote] It's the Football League, how many times it's not the FA and you are saying Mostyn doesn't know what he's doing. Why the sudden surprise over the new proposed owners, those of us with any sense looked into this and said at the time they look problematic at best but oh no it was we should give them a chance don't be so negative and yet here we are. Bond on the other hand has been doing a good job with the squad and I don't agree with your comments on the squad at all, we have bought in the younger players this season and added some experience that we needed, so it's hardly the oldest squad in the league. I do have one question though, why is the Chairman in name in Spain on holiday when the future of the club is being decided, I think this just adds to the reality that he no longer runs things which in itself we should see as a good thing, all I am going to do is keep my fingers crossed, I think we will start the season in admin which I have said for a while and I still think we could yet have different owners which I also said when these guys got involved, so for all those who told me to jump off cliffs etc what have you got to say about this now?[/quote] Gloating!! if this isn't saying i told you so just to try and make yourself look important and clever then i suggest you remove 2/3 of the post. and now you're just trying to argue with someone who is just saying their own perfectly valid opinion. get a life.[/quote] Also it's a perfectly valid point to call the team a load of has beens is it, well sorry but I will defend the club on that argument and I will never accept that as an opinion of the team, why would anyone think that of their own team?[/quote] it is not our team its just the odds and sods that Bond can scratch together for an attempt at playing a game of football on saturday.by 6 o'clock on saturday you'll know how valid your faith is .... i wish you luck[/quote] Why are you so against the team, I still cannot understand why you are so anti the cherries if you are a cherries fan?
muffin the mule wrote:
GMcMahon wrote:
fieldymex wrote:
GMcMahon wrote:
muffin the mule wrote: now you know why it all went t i t s up in the first place - total incompetence ! and Mostyns on holiday at this crucial point because he's history ,is that not obvious to everybody .Bond is currently assembling the the oldest group of players in the league and the current would be owners clearly dont have a clue and/or enough money to resolve it and the FA have spotted the flaws - a disaster start to finish
It's the Football League, how many times it's not the FA and you are saying Mostyn doesn't know what he's doing. Why the sudden surprise over the new proposed owners, those of us with any sense looked into this and said at the time they look problematic at best but oh no it was we should give them a chance don't be so negative and yet here we are. Bond on the other hand has been doing a good job with the squad and I don't agree with your comments on the squad at all, we have bought in the younger players this season and added some experience that we needed, so it's hardly the oldest squad in the league. I do have one question though, why is the Chairman in name in Spain on holiday when the future of the club is being decided, I think this just adds to the reality that he no longer runs things which in itself we should see as a good thing, all I am going to do is keep my fingers crossed, I think we will start the season in admin which I have said for a while and I still think we could yet have different owners which I also said when these guys got involved, so for all those who told me to jump off cliffs etc what have you got to say about this now?
Gloating!! if this isn't saying i told you so just to try and make yourself look important and clever then i suggest you remove 2/3 of the post. and now you're just trying to argue with someone who is just saying their own perfectly valid opinion. get a life.
Also it's a perfectly valid point to call the team a load of has beens is it, well sorry but I will defend the club on that argument and I will never accept that as an opinion of the team, why would anyone think that of their own team?
it is not our team its just the odds and sods that Bond can scratch together for an attempt at playing a game of football on saturday.by 6 o'clock on saturday you'll know how valid your faith is .... i wish you luck
Why are you so against the team, I still cannot understand why you are so anti the cherries if you are a cherries fan?
