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CHERRIES' new owner Paul Baker has expressed both his disappointment and optimism after the club's bid to exit administration was tonight dealt another blow.
Football League chiefs today met to discuss Cherries' membership application and club officials were hoping an end to the saga could have been on the cards.
But a statement issued by the Football League board this evening read: "The Board considered an application under the 'exceptional circumstances' provisions of its insolvency policy relating to AFC Bournemouth.
"However, the Board is not yet satisfied with the viability of the new company's proposals and consequently it has been asked to reflect further on its position.
"The Board will meet tomorrow to consider the matter again."
Speaking to the Daily Echo following publication of the statement, Baker said: "We are disappointed that a decision has not yet been made by the Football League board, but take heart that they will be meeting again tomorrow to discuss our application."
7:53pm Wednesday 6th August 2008
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CommentPosted by: Cheerful, Bournemouth on 8:04pm Wed 6 Aug 08
Sounds like the takeover proposals are dodgy to say the least.
Sounds like the takeover proposals are dodgy to say the least.
Posted by: mossly, christchurch on 8:09pm Wed 6 Aug 08
My heart has suddenly sunk. What would be the reasons for this action? Reading the web sites several suggestions about financial link and proving the club can fulfill the fixtures
My heart has suddenly sunk. What would be the reasons for this action? Reading the web sites several suggestions about financial link and proving the club can fulfill the fixtures
Posted by: Leon, dorset on 8:26pm Wed 6 Aug 08
So do they really not have the cash? wonder how this stands with the new sponsorship money, thought the biggest deal in the clubs history had been done, surely this and the new catering money would be enough to prove the team can fulfill its fixtures. All this talk about delivery then this.
So do they really not have the cash? wonder how this stands with the new sponsorship money, thought the biggest deal in the clubs history had been done, surely this and the new catering money would be enough to prove the team can fulfill its fixtures. All this talk about delivery then this.
Posted by: Matt on 8:34pm Wed 6 Aug 08
Will these guys 'deliver' league football to the town of Bournemouth?
Something must be wrong with these guys if Rotherham who haven’t even been speaking to the FL until last week get their decision sooner than us.
Will these guys 'deliver' league football to the town of Bournemouth?
Something must be wrong with these guys if Rotherham who haven’t even been speaking to the FL until last week get their decision sooner than us.
Posted by: fieldymex, mexico on 8:39pm Wed 6 Aug 08
oh dear. we've been told some bu11sh1t.
oh dear. we've been told some bu11sh1t.
Posted by: rednblackarmy, new milton on 8:49pm Wed 6 Aug 08
i do not like the sound of this dont think these guys have the money we might get more points than luton at this rate why dont the fl make it 2 divisions now there wont be many teams left soon.
i do not like the sound of this dont think these guys have the money we might get more points than luton at this rate why dont the fl make it 2 divisions now there wont be many teams left soon.
Posted by: Paul W, Charminster, Bomo on 9:36pm Wed 6 Aug 08
If this proposal was rubbish then it would have been thrown out today. Clearly you guys have never been in business where things need to be clarified and are more than happy to snipe from the sidelines.
Sadly the fact that the echo has nothing to report, yet still reports it fuels your cynicism. I hope you support the lads on the pitch on saturday - at one stage - whether you like it or not you are gonna have to support the lads off the pitch too. Thats the only way the club will suceed. Lets hope we get a positive result on Thursday - from the league, from the club and from the fans.
If this proposal was rubbish then it would have been thrown out today. Clearly you guys have never been in business where things need to be clarified and are more than happy to snipe from the sidelines.
Sadly the fact that the echo has nothing to report, yet still reports it fuels your cynicism. I hope you support the lads on the pitch on saturday - at one stage - whether you like it or not you are gonna have to support the lads off the pitch too. Thats the only way the club will suceed. Lets hope we get a positive result on Thursday - from the league, from the club and from the fans.
Posted by: Northcountryboy, Poole on 9:49pm Wed 6 Aug 08
well said Paul w...finally someone is talking sense on here.
well said Paul w...finally someone is talking sense on here.
Posted by: johnbensonfanclub, bournemouth on 9:51pm Wed 6 Aug 08
My concern is this , when did a collection of testosterone spent older players storm , or even creep to promotion. I recall John Toshack achieving this with some good ex liverpool players years ago. Can someone please tell me otherwise. Also , we should be looking at Lee Bradbury as a striker in this division as they are hard to come by and we have other options for the right back berth. That would give us three goal scoring forwards.
My concern is this , when did a collection of testosterone spent older players storm , or even creep to promotion.
I recall John Toshack achieving this with some good ex liverpool players years ago.
Can someone please tell me otherwise.
Also , we should be looking at Lee Bradbury as a striker in this division as they are hard to come by and we have other options for the right back berth.
That would give us three goal scoring forwards.
My concern is this , when did a collection of testosterone spent older players storm , or even creep to promotion. I recall John Toshack achieving this with some good ex liverpool players years ago. Can someone please tell me otherwise. Also , we should be looking at Lee Bradbury as a striker in this division as they are hard to come by and we have other options for the right back berth. That would give us three goal scoring forwards.
My concern is this , when did a collection of testosterone spent older players storm , or even creep to promotion.
I recall John Toshack achieving this with some good ex liverpool players years ago.
Can someone please tell me otherwise.
Also , we should be looking at Lee Bradbury as a striker in this division as they are hard to come by and we have other options for the right back berth.
That would give us three goal scoring forwards.
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 9:53pm Wed 6 Aug 08
Sorry Paul W, don't agree with you. Sport 6 have had long enough to get a business plan through the Football League. At the end of the day it's down to having the financial ability to get the club through next season. The new owners that have got hold of our club through bulls##t and now they have been found out.
All is not lost..... keep the faith.....
Sorry Paul W, don't agree with you. Sport 6 have had long enough to get a business plan through the Football League. At the end of the day it's down to having the financial ability to get the club through next season. The new owners that have got hold of our club through bulls##t and now they have been found out.
All is not lost..... keep the faith.....
Posted by: Throopmill, Mt Everest on 9:54pm Wed 6 Aug 08
Mostyn out.
Daddy has furped the club big and proper.
Daddy should have walked long ago,he frigged about all close season,now it's the begging bowl !
Mostyn out.
Daddy has furped the club big and proper.
Daddy should have walked long ago,he frigged about all close season,now it's the begging bowl !
Posted by: johnpeek, Bournemouth on 9:58pm Wed 6 Aug 08
The FL website says Rotherham must agree their terms by noon Frid ( if not-who knows what happens). The FL also say that Bournemouth Board must reconsider - not the FL. The lunatics are in charge of the asylum!!!
The FL website says Rotherham must agree their terms by noon Frid ( if not-who knows what happens). The FL also say that Bournemouth Board must reconsider - not the FL. The lunatics are in charge of the asylum!!!
Posted by: fieldymex, mexico on 10:28pm Wed 6 Aug 08
'has been asked to reflect further on its position'. does that mean we are begging them to change their mind or what? or are we reflecting on our position? i am slightly confused here. either way I agree with AFCB one and only. they have had months to sort this out. why has it not been done? the only reason i can see is that they are shady and never really had enough cash. how many 'partners' has mostyn had in this saga? why?
well i hope we're all right but it doesnt look good in the long term either if the FL dont think the plan is viable.
'has been asked to reflect further on its position'. does that mean we are begging them to change their mind or what? or are we reflecting on our position? i am slightly confused here. either way I agree with AFCB one and only. they have had months to sort this out. why has it not been done? the only reason i can see is that they are shady and never really had enough cash. how many 'partners' has mostyn had in this saga? why?
well i hope we're all right but it doesnt look good in the long term either if the FL dont think the plan is viable.
Posted by: steven, middlesbrough on 11:22pm Wed 6 Aug 08
as a bournemouth fan from afar, i cant believe we are in this state only 3 days before the season starts, how come its taken so long for the fl to come to a descision??
as a bournemouth fan from afar, i cant believe we are in this state only 3 days before the season starts, how come its taken so long for the fl to come to a descision??
Posted by: elvispresleysking, Bristol on 11:35pm Wed 6 Aug 08
[quote][bold]fieldymex[/bold] wrote:
'has been asked to reflect further on its position'. does that mean we are begging them to change their mind or what? or are we reflecting on our position? i am slightly confused here. either way I agree with AFCB one and only. they have had months to sort this out. why has it not been done? the only reason i can see is that they are shady and never really had enough cash. how many 'partners' has mostyn had in this saga? why? well i hope we're all right but it doesnt look good in the long term either if the FL dont think the plan is viable. [/quote] "However, the Board is not yet satisfied with the viability of the new company's proposals and consequently it has been asked to reflect further on its position.
Take this in context with Paul Bakers comment about 'take heart they are meeting again tomorrow to discuss our application' would imply to me that the FL had reached a decision, obviously not favourable to AFCB, and PB had asked the board to 'further reflect' their position. Again this is speculation but you would assume that meant what the ramifications of their decision would mean if it was AFCB being denied the share as they couldn't guarantee fulfiling all the fixtures?
They are obviously worried about the financial aspects of the club but bear in mind Sport-6 have only been 'in bed' with Mostyn for a number of weeks so whilst JM and GK may have had months to prepare a business plan PB and AS haven't and I can't believe they would have gone ahead with a previous proposal.
I also notice that during this whole process the ST have come in for some stick due to their lack of involvement and the asking of 'awkward' questions. Now I notice that in the last 2 days Derek Timoney has suddenly started issuing 'statements' regarding the season ticket issue and tonight re the FL statement. Any reason why they have suddenly found a voice?
Finally, who OWNS the ground? I just wondered who gets the revenue on match days from catering excetra? Bristol Rugby are tennants at Bristol Rovers yet on matchdays Rovers get all bar takings thus reducing the rugby clubs financial earnings. I noticed that a few people have insisted that the only way forward for AFCB would be to buy back the ground
thus maximising their earning potential - maybe the FL don't think AFCB are viable without their own ground?
fieldymex wrote:
'has been asked to reflect further on its position'. does that mean we are begging them to change their mind or what? or are we reflecting on our position? i am slightly confused here. either way I agree with AFCB one and only. they have had months to sort this out. why has it not been done? the only reason i can see is that they are shady and never really had enough cash. how many 'partners' has mostyn had in this saga? why? well i hope we're all right but it doesnt look good in the long term either if the FL dont think the plan is viable.
"However, the Board is not yet satisfied with the viability of the new company's proposals and consequently it has been asked to reflect further on its position.
Take this in context with Paul Bakers comment about 'take heart they are meeting again tomorrow to discuss our application' would imply to me that the FL had reached a decision, obviously not favourable to AFCB, and PB had asked the board to 'further reflect' their position. Again this is speculation but you would assume that meant what the ramifications of their decision would mean if it was AFCB being denied the share as they couldn't guarantee fulfiling all the fixtures?
They are obviously worried about the financial aspects of the club but bear in mind Sport-6 have only been 'in bed' with Mostyn for a number of weeks so whilst JM and GK may have had months to prepare a business plan PB and AS haven't and I can't believe they would have gone ahead with a previous proposal.
I also notice that during this whole process the ST have come in for some stick due to their lack of involvement and the asking of 'awkward' questions. Now I notice that in the last 2 days Derek Timoney has suddenly started issuing 'statements' regarding the season ticket issue and tonight re the FL statement. Any reason why they have suddenly found a voice?
Finally, who OWNS the ground? I just wondered who gets the revenue on match days from catering excetra? Bristol Rugby are tennants at Bristol Rovers yet on matchdays Rovers get all bar takings thus reducing the rugby clubs financial earnings. I noticed that a few people have insisted that the only way forward for AFCB would be to buy back the ground
thus maximising their earning potential - maybe the FL don't think AFCB are viable without their own ground?
Posted by: AFCBade, Croydon on 11:46pm Wed 6 Aug 08
Didnt sport-6 say they had sufficient funds to cover any CVA settlement should they need to. Surely any administrator would have verified this? If so with a clean financial position surely we can break even given our low wage structure?
If we fail now the big question is whether alan pither's bid had more robust funding and if so why wasnt that accepted weeks ago.
I still think its shameful that there isnt a clear statement that explains why some teams get 15 points, 17 or 20.
Also look at Man City's business affairs!
Didnt sport-6 say they had sufficient funds to cover any CVA settlement should they need to. Surely any administrator would have verified this? If so with a clean financial position surely we can break even given our low wage structure?
If we fail now the big question is whether alan pither's bid had more robust funding and if so why wasnt that accepted weeks ago.
I still think its shameful that there isnt a clear statement that explains why some teams get 15 points, 17 or 20.
Also look at Man City's business affairs!
Posted by: AFCBade, Croydon on 11:55pm Wed 6 Aug 08
I would very interested if the clubs represented on the FL review panel to assess AFCB have their own viable business plan. Perhaps they should declare them before they vote on ours!
I would very interested if the clubs represented on the FL review panel to assess AFCB have their own viable business plan. Perhaps they should declare them before they vote on ours!
Posted by: elvispresleysking, Bristol on 12:03am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCBade[/bold] wrote:
Didnt sport-6 say they had sufficient funds to cover any CVA settlement should they need to. Surely any administrator would have verified this? If so with a clean financial position surely we can break even given our low wage structure? If we fail now the big question is whether alan pither's bid had more robust funding and if so why wasnt that accepted weeks ago. I still think its shameful that there isnt a clear statement that explains why some teams get 15 points, 17 or 20. Also look at Man City's business affairs! [/quote] Leeds received 15 pts last season for not exiting admin with a CVA. After a High Court challenge the judge upheld the FL decision but said that the 15 pt penalty should not be a precedent. Rather each club should be looked at on it's own merits.
Therefore Luton received 20 pts to reflect the fact that this was their 3rd time in admin in 10 years, Rotherham received 17 pts to reflect that this was their 2nd time in admin in as many seasons. What will AFCB get? I would imagine the same as Rotherham, as this is your second time in admin (though over a longer time frame).
Effectly the FL have now created a sliding scale of penalty pts for clubs in admin dependant on how many times they've been there!
AFCBade wrote:
Didnt sport-6 say they had sufficient funds to cover any CVA settlement should they need to. Surely any administrator would have verified this? If so with a clean financial position surely we can break even given our low wage structure? If we fail now the big question is whether alan pither's bid had more robust funding and if so why wasnt that accepted weeks ago. I still think its shameful that there isnt a clear statement that explains why some teams get 15 points, 17 or 20. Also look at Man City's business affairs!
Leeds received 15 pts last season for not exiting admin with a CVA. After a High Court challenge the judge upheld the FL decision but said that the 15 pt penalty should not be a precedent. Rather each club should be looked at on it's own merits.
Therefore Luton received 20 pts to reflect the fact that this was their 3rd time in admin in 10 years, Rotherham received 17 pts to reflect that this was their 2nd time in admin in as many seasons. What will AFCB get? I would imagine the same as Rotherham, as this is your second time in admin (though over a longer time frame).
Effectly the FL have now created a sliding scale of penalty pts for clubs in admin dependant on how many times they've been there!
Posted by: AFCBade, Croydon on 12:15am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]elvispresleysking[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]AFCBade[/bold] wrote:
Didnt sport-6 say they had sufficient funds to cover any CVA settlement should they need to. Surely any administrator would have verified this? If so with a clean financial position surely we can break even given our low wage structure? If we fail now the big question is whether alan pither's bid had more robust funding and if so why wasnt that accepted weeks ago. I still think its shameful that there isnt a clear statement that explains why some teams get 15 points, 17 or 20. Also look at Man City's business affairs! [/quote] Leeds received 15 pts last season for not exiting admin with a CVA. After a High Court challenge the judge upheld the FL decision but said that the 15 pt penalty should not be a precedent. Rather each club should be looked at on it's own merits.
Therefore Luton received 20 pts to reflect the fact that this was their 3rd time in admin in 10 years, Rotherham received 17 pts to reflect that this was their 2nd time in admin in as many seasons. What will AFCB get? I would imagine the same as Rotherham, as this is your second time in admin (though over a longer time frame).
Effectly the FL have now created a sliding scale of penalty pts for clubs in admin dependant on how many times they've been there!
[/quote] Understand this logic but I would feel happier if those rules were clearly stated before the clubs learned of their fate, esp as we have all had 10 points deducted already.
Also what is the time frame : is 10 years ago still relevant or or 20 years etc...
I dont expect luton, Rotherham or AFCB will be the only clubs in admin by the end of this season and hopefully the FL will review the structure of the game.
elvispresleysking wrote:
AFCBade wrote:
Didnt sport-6 say they had sufficient funds to cover any CVA settlement should they need to. Surely any administrator would have verified this? If so with a clean financial position surely we can break even given our low wage structure? If we fail now the big question is whether alan pither's bid had more robust funding and if so why wasnt that accepted weeks ago. I still think its shameful that there isnt a clear statement that explains why some teams get 15 points, 17 or 20. Also look at Man City's business affairs!
Leeds received 15 pts last season for not exiting admin with a CVA. After a High Court challenge the judge upheld the FL decision but said that the 15 pt penalty should not be a precedent. Rather each club should be looked at on it's own merits.
Therefore Luton received 20 pts to reflect the fact that this was their 3rd time in admin in 10 years, Rotherham received 17 pts to reflect that this was their 2nd time in admin in as many seasons. What will AFCB get? I would imagine the same as Rotherham, as this is your second time in admin (though over a longer time frame).
Effectly the FL have now created a sliding scale of penalty pts for clubs in admin dependant on how many times they've been there!
Understand this logic but I would feel happier if those rules were clearly stated before the clubs learned of their fate, esp as we have all had 10 points deducted already.
Also what is the time frame : is 10 years ago still relevant or or 20 years etc...
I dont expect luton, Rotherham or AFCB will be the only clubs in admin by the end of this season and hopefully the FL will review the structure of the game.
Posted by: chrisgoman, Muscat, Oman on 1:58am Thu 7 Aug 08
The key here is:
[italic]"the Board is not yet satisfied with the viability of the new company's proposals"[/italic] meaning that there are gaps in its proposal...
[italic]..."and consequently it has been asked to reflect further on its position",[/italic] meaning that it has to somehow fill those gaps and/or satisfy FL criteria that those gaps can be filled in time.
Neither you or me have seen the Business Plan so we don't know what these gaps could be.
The key here is:
"the Board is not yet satisfied with the viability of the new company's proposals" meaning that there are gaps in its proposal...
..."and consequently it has been asked to reflect further on its position", meaning that it has to somehow fill those gaps and/or satisfy FL criteria that those gaps can be filled in time.
Neither you or me have seen the Business Plan so we don't know what these gaps could be.
Posted by: StephenColes, Hampshire on 7:53am Thu 7 Aug 08
If JM was not insisting on getting his circa £850k out from all prospective purchasers then we would have been out of admin before the end of last season.
If JM was not insisting on getting his circa £850k out from all prospective purchasers then we would have been out of admin before the end of last season.
Posted by: Leon, dorset on 8:36am Thu 7 Aug 08
Does that £850K include the golden shares taken from the supporters he told us he bought but never actually paid for?
Does that £850K include the golden shares taken from the supporters he told us he bought but never actually paid for?
Posted by: kenno, Sidmouth on 9:04am Thu 7 Aug 08
Looks like we will be heading back to the league set up of 50 years ago with a League 2 North and League 2 south.
Pro football in the lower leagues and the travelling, overnight stops etc simply cannot be sustained on the gates many clubs are averaging. Accrington Stanley 1600, Barnet 2100, Dagenham 2300, Morecombe 2200, Macclesfield 2100. Most of them get their away support in a mini bus. We are going to see our average home gate plummet this season without the revenue from Leeds, Notts Forest,Br.Rovers,Bri
ghton etc..and this will affect the budget available for players.
Get some strikers in and no matter what the points deduction go out to win every game. Goals will also pull in the punters.
I remember going up to Newcastle in the early 70's and our players held up cards saying "we aim to entertain".
We simply cannot afford to go out with thought that staying in this league will be a success....it will be suicide!!
Looks like we will be heading back to the league set up of 50 years ago with a League 2 North and League 2 south.
Pro football in the lower leagues and the travelling, overnight stops etc simply cannot be sustained on the gates many clubs are averaging. Accrington Stanley 1600, Barnet 2100, Dagenham 2300, Morecombe 2200, Macclesfield 2100. Most of them get their away support in a mini bus. We are going to see our average home gate plummet this season without the revenue from Leeds, Notts Forest,Br.Rovers,Bri
ghton etc..and this will affect the budget available for players.
Get some strikers in and no matter what the points deduction go out to win every game. Goals will also pull in the punters.
I remember going up to Newcastle in the early 70's and our players held up cards saying "we aim to entertain".
We simply cannot afford to go out with thought that staying in this league will be a success....it will be suicide!!
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 9:23am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]kenno[/bold] wrote:
Looks like we will be heading back to the league set up of 50 years ago with a League 2 North and League 2 south.
Pro football in the lower leagues and the travelling, overnight stops etc simply cannot be sustained on the gates many clubs are averaging. Accrington Stanley 1600, Barnet 2100, Dagenham 2300, Morecombe 2200, Macclesfield 2100. Most of them get their away support in a mini bus. We are going to see our average home gate plummet this season without the revenue from Leeds, Notts Forest,Br.Rovers,Bri
ghton etc..and this will affect the budget available for players.
Get some strikers in and no matter what the points deduction go out to win every game. Goals will also pull in the punters.
I remember going up to Newcastle in the early 70's and our players held up cards saying "we aim to entertain".
We simply cannot afford to go out with thought that staying in this league will be a success....it will be suicide!!
[/quote] But Kenno if we are going to get a points deduction like Rotherham who are getting 17 points deducted then staying in the league is the only objective, that in itself will feel like promotion under the circumstances.
kenno wrote:
Looks like we will be heading back to the league set up of 50 years ago with a League 2 North and League 2 south.
Pro football in the lower leagues and the travelling, overnight stops etc simply cannot be sustained on the gates many clubs are averaging. Accrington Stanley 1600, Barnet 2100, Dagenham 2300, Morecombe 2200, Macclesfield 2100. Most of them get their away support in a mini bus. We are going to see our average home gate plummet this season without the revenue from Leeds, Notts Forest,Br.Rovers,Bri
ghton etc..and this will affect the budget available for players.
Get some strikers in and no matter what the points deduction go out to win every game. Goals will also pull in the punters.
I remember going up to Newcastle in the early 70's and our players held up cards saying "we aim to entertain".
We simply cannot afford to go out with thought that staying in this league will be a success....it will be suicide!!
But Kenno if we are going to get a points deduction like Rotherham who are getting 17 points deducted then staying in the league is the only objective, that in itself will feel like promotion under the circumstances.
Posted by: kudos, Fareham on 9:27am Thu 7 Aug 08
Am I the only person here that thinks the FL is [bold]hindering[/bold] AFCB's viability to fullfill it's fixtures. Blocking free transfers, making purchasing a season ticket incredibly frustrating, low confidence in the board and an expected heafty points deduction are all the FL's doing.
Why are we attacking Sport-6 who as I see it are the best option for taking us out of admin when none of the above is their fault?
Am I the only person here that thinks the FL is
hindering AFCB's viability to fullfill it's fixtures. Blocking free transfers, making purchasing a season ticket incredibly frustrating, low confidence in the board and an expected heafty points deduction are all the FL's doing.
Why are we attacking Sport-6 who as I see it are the best option for taking us out of admin when none of the above is their fault?
Posted by: kenno, Sidmouth on 9:31am Thu 7 Aug 08
I really believe that with a positive attitude,a strong following wind, three points this saturday, and an attitude that we go out to win every game we can make the play offs whether we have a 17 point deduction or not.
Its all about momentum and self belief. Hopefully, Bondy has told his players they have all been handpicked for a promotion push and that they are the best players in this division.
Most importantly to go out and enjoy their football, have a smile on their faces and score GOALS.
I really believe that with a positive attitude,a strong following wind, three points this saturday, and an attitude that we go out to win every game we can make the play offs whether we have a 17 point deduction or not.
Its all about momentum and self belief. Hopefully, Bondy has told his players they have all been handpicked for a promotion push and that they are the best players in this division.
Most importantly to go out and enjoy their football, have a smile on their faces and score GOALS.
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 9:35am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]kenno[/bold] wrote:
I really believe that with a positive attitude,a strong following wind, three points this saturday, and an attitude that we go out to win every game we can make the play offs whether we have a 17 point deduction or not.
Its all about momentum and self belief. Hopefully, Bondy has told his players they have all been handpicked for a promotion push and that they are the best players in this division.
Most importantly to go out and enjoy their football, have a smile on their faces and score GOALS.[/quote] For us to make the play offs we would have to get 87 points minimum that's enough to take the title and yet people on here are telling us we have old dodgy players, I am all for being positive but even Leeds with their strong following etc just about made it so how do you expect our skint club with probably 4000 home supporters to do it?
kenno wrote:
I really believe that with a positive attitude,a strong following wind, three points this saturday, and an attitude that we go out to win every game we can make the play offs whether we have a 17 point deduction or not.
Its all about momentum and self belief. Hopefully, Bondy has told his players they have all been handpicked for a promotion push and that they are the best players in this division.
Most importantly to go out and enjoy their football, have a smile on their faces and score GOALS.
For us to make the play offs we would have to get 87 points minimum that's enough to take the title and yet people on here are telling us we have old dodgy players, I am all for being positive but even Leeds with their strong following etc just about made it so how do you expect our skint club with probably 4000 home supporters to do it?
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 9:39am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]kudos[/bold] wrote:
Am I the only person here that thinks the FL is [bold]hindering[/bold] AFCB's viability to fullfill it's fixtures. Blocking free transfers, making purchasing a season ticket incredibly frustrating, low confidence in the board and an expected heafty points deduction are all the FL's doing.
Why are we attacking Sport-6 who as I see it are the best option for taking us out of admin when none of the above is their fault?[/quote] Trouble we have is that the League wan to see assurances that the club can exit administration and keep itself afloat, if sport6 cannot show they have the financial ability to do this then the League have every right to say no, just because these guys are at the club right now does not mean they are the right people to take the club forward, if you look into their background there is no money to be found anywhere, and they are themselves looking for investment form other sources, so you have to see the leagues point of view, they don't want to let the club come out of admin for it only to be right back in it months later that could see the end of the club forever, not an option in my mind.
kudos wrote:
Am I the only person here that thinks the FL is hindering AFCB's viability to fullfill it's fixtures. Blocking free transfers, making purchasing a season ticket incredibly frustrating, low confidence in the board and an expected heafty points deduction are all the FL's doing.
Why are we attacking Sport-6 who as I see it are the best option for taking us out of admin when none of the above is their fault?
Trouble we have is that the League wan to see assurances that the club can exit administration and keep itself afloat, if sport6 cannot show they have the financial ability to do this then the League have every right to say no, just because these guys are at the club right now does not mean they are the right people to take the club forward, if you look into their background there is no money to be found anywhere, and they are themselves looking for investment form other sources, so you have to see the leagues point of view, they don't want to let the club come out of admin for it only to be right back in it months later that could see the end of the club forever, not an option in my mind.
Posted by: kenno, Sidmouth on 9:51am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]kenno[/bold] wrote: I really believe that with a positive attitude,a strong following wind, three points this saturday, and an attitude that we go out to win every game we can make the play offs whether we have a 17 point deduction or not. Its all about momentum and self belief. Hopefully, Bondy has told his players they have all been handpicked for a promotion push and that they are the best players in this division. Most importantly to go out and enjoy their football, have a smile on their faces and score GOALS.[/quote] For us to make the play offs we would have to get 87 points minimum that's enough to take the title and yet people on here are telling us we have old dodgy players, I am all for being positive but even Leeds with their strong following etc just about made it so how do you expect our skint club with probably 4000 home supporters to do it? [/quote] League 2 looks very open this year.No outstanding candidates for promotion and every team capable of beating each other.
If that transpires making the play offs could be achieved on a lower points figure than you suggest.
Its all about getting off to a good start on saturday, a positive attitude and a bit of luck on the way.
Making the play offs is a stretching goal but achievable.Staying in this division leaves room for a bit of complacency.
In industry the targets are tough but get the staff to buy in to what you aim to achieve, get all pulling in the same direction and you never know.The same rules apply for a football team.Scott Guyett, Lee Bradbury, Darren Anderton,Sammy Igoe will all want to finish their careers on a high and with promotion on their C.V.
Fingers crossed for saturday.
GMcMahon wrote:
kenno wrote: I really believe that with a positive attitude,a strong following wind, three points this saturday, and an attitude that we go out to win every game we can make the play offs whether we have a 17 point deduction or not. Its all about momentum and self belief. Hopefully, Bondy has told his players they have all been handpicked for a promotion push and that they are the best players in this division. Most importantly to go out and enjoy their football, have a smile on their faces and score GOALS.
For us to make the play offs we would have to get 87 points minimum that's enough to take the title and yet people on here are telling us we have old dodgy players, I am all for being positive but even Leeds with their strong following etc just about made it so how do you expect our skint club with probably 4000 home supporters to do it?
League 2 looks very open this year.No outstanding candidates for promotion and every team capable of beating each other.
If that transpires making the play offs could be achieved on a lower points figure than you suggest.
Its all about getting off to a good start on saturday, a positive attitude and a bit of luck on the way.
Making the play offs is a stretching goal but achievable.Staying in this division leaves room for a bit of complacency.
In industry the targets are tough but get the staff to buy in to what you aim to achieve, get all pulling in the same direction and you never know.The same rules apply for a football team.Scott Guyett, Lee Bradbury, Darren Anderton,Sammy Igoe will all want to finish their careers on a high and with promotion on their C.V.
Fingers crossed for saturday.
Posted by: Richard Mayes on 10:13am Thu 7 Aug 08
One of the problems is that the League by their stupid points deductions and double standards make it unlikely that investors can be found, particularly with a recession approaching, for Clubs likely to forfeit their League Status. Whilst there have been rumours all year about "investors waiting in the wings" none of them when put to the crunch have materealized and it has been left to Mostyn to try and find them. I don't know whether Sports -6 have the money or not, and they only promised to put on a seven figure sum and this may be their limit What if the League demands more. Then too, whilst this is the second time that Bournemouth have gone into Administration, surely the fact that they alone repaid the creditors of their first Administration should count in their favour.As it is there is a very real risk that we have seen the last game at Dean Court.
One of the problems is that the League by their stupid points deductions and double standards make it unlikely that investors can be found, particularly with a recession approaching, for Clubs likely to forfeit their League Status. Whilst there have been rumours all year about "investors waiting in the wings" none of them when put to the crunch have materealized and it has been left to Mostyn to try and find them. I don't know whether Sports -6 have the money or not, and they only promised to put on a seven figure sum and this may be their limit What if the League demands more. Then too, whilst this is the second time that Bournemouth have gone into Administration, surely the fact that they alone repaid the creditors of their first Administration should count in their favour.As it is there is a very real risk that we have seen the last game at Dean Court.
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 10:14am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]kenno[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]kenno[/bold] wrote: I really believe that with a positive attitude,a strong following wind, three points this saturday, and an attitude that we go out to win every game we can make the play offs whether we have a 17 point deduction or not. Its all about momentum and self belief. Hopefully, Bondy has told his players they have all been handpicked for a promotion push and that they are the best players in this division. Most importantly to go out and enjoy their football, have a smile on their faces and score GOALS.[/quote] For us to make the play offs we would have to get 87 points minimum that's enough to take the title and yet people on here are telling us we have old dodgy players, I am all for being positive but even Leeds with their strong following etc just about made it so how do you expect our skint club with probably 4000 home supporters to do it? [/quote] League 2 looks very open this year.No outstanding candidates for promotion and every team capable of beating each other.
If that transpires making the play offs could be achieved on a lower points figure than you suggest.
Its all about getting off to a good start on saturday, a positive attitude and a bit of luck on the way.
Making the play offs is a stretching goal but achievable.Staying in this division leaves room for a bit of complacency.
In industry the targets are tough but get the staff to buy in to what you aim to achieve, get all pulling in the same direction and you never know.The same rules apply for a football team.Scott Guyett, Lee Bradbury, Darren Anderton,Sammy Igoe will all want to finish their careers on a high and with promotion on their C.V.
Fingers crossed for saturday. [/quote] I have said myself I think we have the players to make the play offs but I am also realistic enough to see that if we get 17 points deducted then it will take one hell of a season to do it, and with all the will in the world sometimes you have to look at what's in front of you, 70 points is the realistic target for the play offs, it has been every season I can remember and 87 points sees teams win the league, without the points deduction of it it's 10 points then I think we have every chance but to expect the team to get 87 points I think is asking too much, Rotherham and Luton will now be favorites for relegation after this so I can't be as positive to even suggest that we would make the play offs with such a heavy points loss.
kenno wrote:
GMcMahon wrote:
kenno wrote: I really believe that with a positive attitude,a strong following wind, three points this saturday, and an attitude that we go out to win every game we can make the play offs whether we have a 17 point deduction or not. Its all about momentum and self belief. Hopefully, Bondy has told his players they have all been handpicked for a promotion push and that they are the best players in this division. Most importantly to go out and enjoy their football, have a smile on their faces and score GOALS.
For us to make the play offs we would have to get 87 points minimum that's enough to take the title and yet people on here are telling us we have old dodgy players, I am all for being positive but even Leeds with their strong following etc just about made it so how do you expect our skint club with probably 4000 home supporters to do it?
League 2 looks very open this year.No outstanding candidates for promotion and every team capable of beating each other.
If that transpires making the play offs could be achieved on a lower points figure than you suggest.
Its all about getting off to a good start on saturday, a positive attitude and a bit of luck on the way.
Making the play offs is a stretching goal but achievable.Staying in this division leaves room for a bit of complacency.
In industry the targets are tough but get the staff to buy in to what you aim to achieve, get all pulling in the same direction and you never know.The same rules apply for a football team.Scott Guyett, Lee Bradbury, Darren Anderton,Sammy Igoe will all want to finish their careers on a high and with promotion on their C.V.
Fingers crossed for saturday.
I have said myself I think we have the players to make the play offs but I am also realistic enough to see that if we get 17 points deducted then it will take one hell of a season to do it, and with all the will in the world sometimes you have to look at what's in front of you, 70 points is the realistic target for the play offs, it has been every season I can remember and 87 points sees teams win the league, without the points deduction of it it's 10 points then I think we have every chance but to expect the team to get 87 points I think is asking too much, Rotherham and Luton will now be favorites for relegation after this so I can't be as positive to even suggest that we would make the play offs with such a heavy points loss.
Posted by: kenno, Sidmouth on 10:21am Thu 7 Aug 08
How about if we bth agree that the team should aim to go out and play positively, get to a position of safety and see where we can get to from there?
How about if we bth agree that the team should aim to go out and play positively, get to a position of safety and see where we can get to from there?
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 10:43am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]kenno[/bold] wrote:
How about if we bth agree that the team should aim to go out and play positively, get to a position of safety and see where we can get to from there?[/quote] Why would we want to agree? it appears on this site the last thing any of us should ever do is agree, although we could start a new trend wouldn't that be something lol.
kenno wrote:
How about if we bth agree that the team should aim to go out and play positively, get to a position of safety and see where we can get to from there?
Why would we want to agree? it appears on this site the last thing any of us should ever do is agree, although we could start a new trend wouldn't that be something lol.
Posted by: cherryfan, Horndean on 11:32am Thu 7 Aug 08
ECHO!!! Wheres all our comments gone on the "Baker rallies..." thread????!!!!
ECHO!!! Wheres all our comments gone on the "Baker rallies..." thread????!!!!
Posted by: lp, christchurch on 11:34am Thu 7 Aug 08
HA-HA who's upset the echo then ? you naughty boys lol
HA-HA who's upset the echo then ? you naughty boys lol
Posted by: frankfidler, florida usa on 11:45am Thu 7 Aug 08
Where art thou sir harry of portsmouth? the moment of truth is now here.
Where art thou sir harry of portsmouth? the moment of truth is now here.
Posted by: ALL SEEING EYE, WESSEX on 12:00pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]cherryfan[/bold] wrote:
ECHO!!! Wheres all our comments gone on the "Baker rallies..." thread????!!!![/quote] [bold]GMcMahon just can't take critisism.[/bold]
cherryfan wrote:
ECHO!!! Wheres all our comments gone on the "Baker rallies..." thread????!!!!
GMcMahon just can't take critisism. Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 12:59pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]ALL SEEING EYE[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]cherryfan[/bold] wrote:
ECHO!!! Wheres all our comments gone on the "Baker rallies..." thread????!!!![/quote] [bold]GMcMahon just can't take critisism.[/bold] [/quote] Really then why are many of those posts mine, can you please refrain form these continued personal posts, this is about the cherries and their future today and yet every post you have posted today has been about me, surely enough is enough now.
ALL SEEING EYE wrote:
cherryfan wrote:
ECHO!!! Wheres all our comments gone on the "Baker rallies..." thread????!!!!
GMcMahon just can't take critisism.
Really then why are many of those posts mine, can you please refrain form these continued personal posts, this is about the cherries and their future today and yet every post you have posted today has been about me, surely enough is enough now.
Posted by: maxdon, bournemouth on 2:25pm Thu 7 Aug 08
SO MR NEIL PERRETT WHY DONT YOU HAVE THE BALLS TO PRINT THE TRUTH AND STOP REHASHING MEMOS FROM Paul Baker YOU NO MORE THAN YOUR PRINTING
SO MR NEIL PERRETT WHY DONT YOU HAVE THE BALLS TO PRINT THE TRUTH AND STOP REHASHING MEMOS FROM Paul Baker YOU NO MORE THAN YOUR PRINTING
Posted by: spoon, Poole on 5:29pm Thu 7 Aug 08
saving himself for 'the End of the Cherries' exclusive.....
saving himself for 'the End of the Cherries' exclusive.....
Posted by: omegaman, Bournemouth on 10:33pm Thu 7 Aug 08
It's about time something is done about the FA who are trying to ruin football in this country single handed.Instead of making millions out of the game the old men there should help clubs like Bournemouth not hinder them.
It's about time something is done about the FA who are trying to ruin football in this country single handed.Instead of making millions out of the game the old men there should help clubs like Bournemouth not hinder them.
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