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CHERRIES DOCKED 17 POINTS
CHERRIES will start life in League Two with a 17-point deduction, the Football League has confirmed.
In the past few minutes, the league has announced the points deduction, which the club must agree to by midday tomorrow.
The club must also pay its creditors the original dividend offered at the Company Voluntary Arrangement (CVA) meeting earlier this year, understood to be around 10p in the pound.
The statement read: "At its meeting this evening, the Board of Directors of The Football League considered an application from a company - AFC Bournemouth (New Co.) - which has applied to join League Two in place of the existing club, which is currently in administration.
"AFC Bournemouth (Old Co.) has been unable to agree a Company Voluntary Arrangement (CVA) with its creditors and as a consequence is unable to satisfy the normal conditions of the league's insolvency policy for exiting administration.
"The Board decided, however, that it was prepared to exercise its absolute discretion under the 'exceptional circumstances' provisions of its insolvency policy. Therefore, in accordance with recent precedent, the Board has made the following offer to AFC Bournemouth (New Co.). Acceptance of the Board's offer is a pre-requisite to the exercise of that discretion:
1. The club will be deducted 17 points for the 2008/09 season. This takes into account the fact that the club has had a previous insolvency event.
2. The club must provide a legal waiver indicating that it will not challenge or appeal this decision.
3. The club must pay unsecured creditors the amount offered at the time of the CVA hearing.
"The Board's offer is subject to the club agreeing these conditions, and formal agreements being signed, by 12.00 noon tomorrow."
6:36pm Thursday 7th August 2008
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CommentPosted by: rcmorgan20, Carlisle, Cumbria on 6:46pm Thu 7 Aug 08
It's Freezing -17 in August.
Lets crack on i'll settle for a top 22 finish!!
UTCIAD
It's Freezing -17 in August.
Lets crack on i'll settle for a top 22 finish!!
UTCIAD
Posted by: frankfidler, florida usa on 6:47pm Thu 7 Aug 08
it could have been worse. at least we know where we are.we have game on on sat and a team to shout for and lets all rally round and no more negative sniping. come on you cherries. ps any of you guys out there remember nelson stiffle
it could have been worse. at least we know where we are.we have game on on sat and a team to shout for and lets all rally round and no more negative sniping. come on you cherries. ps any of you guys out there remember nelson stiffle
Posted by: frankfidler, florida usa on 6:49pm Thu 7 Aug 08
all we have to do is have one more point than luton or rotheram at the end of the season
all we have to do is have one more point than luton or rotheram at the end of the season
Posted by: Cheerful, Bournemouth on 6:50pm Thu 7 Aug 08
B*****ds at the FL make the rules up as they go along
B*****ds at the FL make the rules up as they go along
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 6:52pm Thu 7 Aug 08
3 way battle a the bottom for safety and we can do better than those other 2 can't we? Come on now we get behind the players and give them all the support we can, we all knew this was going to happen some even thought it would be 20+ points deducted so 17 is no surprise, can't understand how it's the same as Rotherham though, but the club have to take it no choice. So I say time to put all this behind us and get behind the new owners providing they take the deal, and get ourselves up the league UTCIAD.
3 way battle a the bottom for safety and we can do better than those other 2 can't we? Come on now we get behind the players and give them all the support we can, we all knew this was going to happen some even thought it would be 20+ points deducted so 17 is no surprise, can't understand how it's the same as Rotherham though, but the club have to take it no choice. So I say time to put all this behind us and get behind the new owners providing they take the deal, and get ourselves up the league UTCIAD.
Posted by: kenno, Sidmouth on 6:53pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]frankfidler[/bold] wrote:
it could have been worse. at least we know where we are.we have game on on sat and a team to shout for and lets all rally round and no more negative sniping. come on you cherries. ps any of you guys out there remember nelson stiffle[/quote] Seen him play Frank and a good player he was too.Saw my first Boscombe match at the age of four and half and supported them for the past 55 years.
frankfidler wrote:
it could have been worse. at least we know where we are.we have game on on sat and a team to shout for and lets all rally round and no more negative sniping. come on you cherries. ps any of you guys out there remember nelson stiffle
Seen him play Frank and a good player he was too.Saw my first Boscombe match at the age of four and half and supported them for the past 55 years.
Posted by: kenno, Sidmouth on 6:59pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
3 way battle a the bottom for safety and we can do better than those other 2 can't we? Come on now we get behind the players and give them all the support we can, we all knew this was going to happen some even thought it would be 20+ points deducted so 17 is no surprise, can't understand how it's the same as Rotherham though, but the club have to take it no choice. So I say time to put all this behind us and get behind the new owners providing they take the deal, and get ourselves up the league UTCIAD.[/quote] 3 way battle for safety? Don't be negative G Mcmahon there are 24 teams in this league and quite a few will be worse than the three at the bottom.
Luton are in trouble but if Bmth and Rotherham go out with a win attitude in every game and get off to a good start both teams are good enough to be up with the pack around christmas.
Good luck on saturday lads. Get a hat trick Brett and prove me wrong.
p.s Re the Royle family. I don't watch much telly but I do read the newspapers.
GMcMahon wrote:
3 way battle a the bottom for safety and we can do better than those other 2 can't we? Come on now we get behind the players and give them all the support we can, we all knew this was going to happen some even thought it would be 20+ points deducted so 17 is no surprise, can't understand how it's the same as Rotherham though, but the club have to take it no choice. So I say time to put all this behind us and get behind the new owners providing they take the deal, and get ourselves up the league UTCIAD.
3 way battle for safety? Don't be negative G Mcmahon there are 24 teams in this league and quite a few will be worse than the three at the bottom.
Luton are in trouble but if Bmth and Rotherham go out with a win attitude in every game and get off to a good start both teams are good enough to be up with the pack around christmas.
Good luck on saturday lads. Get a hat trick Brett and prove me wrong.
p.s Re the Royle family. I don't watch much telly but I do read the newspapers.
Posted by: Throopmill, Mt Everest on 7:01pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Have they got 500k to pay by tomorrow ?
Have they got 500k to pay by tomorrow ?
Posted by: topgeeza, Bournemouth on 7:02pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Can someone explain to me why we've been hit with -17 and Weeds 'only' got -15 last year?
If this year on year points deduction increase continues, does that mean that in 15-20 years time, teams could start on -126 points? (42 games)!!!
Can someone explain to me why we've been hit with -17 and Weeds 'only' got -15 last year?
If this year on year points deduction increase continues, does that mean that in 15-20 years time, teams could start on -126 points? (42 games)!!!
Posted by: Nick71, Poole on 7:03pm Thu 7 Aug 08
KB has his excuse for failure already made for him. No need to blame anyone else now!
KB has his excuse for failure already made for him. No need to blame anyone else now!
Posted by: steven, middlesbrough on 7:05pm Thu 7 Aug 08
at least we now what we have to do boys, now go for it and prove everyone wrong that we will survive and we can finish above the bottom 3.
at least we now what we have to do boys, now go for it and prove everyone wrong that we will survive and we can finish above the bottom 3.
Posted by: Huckfan, Poole on 7:07pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Throopmill[/bold] wrote:
Have they got 500k to pay by tomorrow ?[/quote] Throophill
You have hit the nail on the head.
The investors are now looking at another 400-500K to find, it may scare them off.
Nail biting stuff!!
Throopmill wrote:
Have they got 500k to pay by tomorrow ?
Throophill
You have hit the nail on the head.
The investors are now looking at another 400-500K to find, it may scare them off.
Nail biting stuff!!
Posted by: lferrone, Boscombe East on 7:07pm Thu 7 Aug 08
As it has already been stated ‘it could have been lot worse’ lets get behind the team now and get the 17 points deficit out of the way and start climbing the league table. It will require courage and determination from all concerned and as a long time supporter I am willing to shout for he boys lets hope more people in Bournemouth come out of their comfortable armchairs and start supporting the team once more. As someone who originated from Italy I am often accused of being unpatriotic for supporting England first before Italy and I also believe that my loyalty should be for my local team first and foremost. Come on the Cherries
As it has already been stated ‘it could have been lot worse’ lets get behind the team now and get the 17 points deficit out of the way and start climbing the league table. It will require courage and determination from all concerned and as a long time supporter I am willing to shout for he boys lets hope more people in Bournemouth come out of their comfortable armchairs and start supporting the team once more. As someone who originated from Italy I am often accused of being unpatriotic for supporting England first before Italy and I also believe that my loyalty should be for my local team first and foremost. Come on the Cherries
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 7:07pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]kenno[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
3 way battle a the bottom for safety and we can do better than those other 2 can't we? Come on now we get behind the players and give them all the support we can, we all knew this was going to happen some even thought it would be 20+ points deducted so 17 is no surprise, can't understand how it's the same as Rotherham though, but the club have to take it no choice. So I say time to put all this behind us and get behind the new owners providing they take the deal, and get ourselves up the league UTCIAD.[/quote] 3 way battle for safety? Don't be negative G Mcmahon there are 24 teams in this league and quite a few will be worse than the three at the bottom.
Luton are in trouble but if Bmth and Rotherham go out with a win attitude in every game and get off to a good start both teams are good enough to be up with the pack around christmas.
Good luck on saturday lads. Get a hat trick Brett and prove me wrong.
p.s Re the Royle family. I don't watch much telly but I do read the newspapers.[/quote] Don't start all that up again, we have football Saturday that should be enough without trying to stir up another argument, I was only commenting on the bottom 3 as they are the ones with points deducted and therefore it should be a forgone conclusion that we don't have to think about relegation, as for where we end up let's get those points back first and then see shall we.
kenno wrote:
GMcMahon wrote:
3 way battle a the bottom for safety and we can do better than those other 2 can't we? Come on now we get behind the players and give them all the support we can, we all knew this was going to happen some even thought it would be 20+ points deducted so 17 is no surprise, can't understand how it's the same as Rotherham though, but the club have to take it no choice. So I say time to put all this behind us and get behind the new owners providing they take the deal, and get ourselves up the league UTCIAD.
3 way battle for safety? Don't be negative G Mcmahon there are 24 teams in this league and quite a few will be worse than the three at the bottom.
Luton are in trouble but if Bmth and Rotherham go out with a win attitude in every game and get off to a good start both teams are good enough to be up with the pack around christmas.
Good luck on saturday lads. Get a hat trick Brett and prove me wrong.
p.s Re the Royle family. I don't watch much telly but I do read the newspapers.
Don't start all that up again, we have football Saturday that should be enough without trying to stir up another argument, I was only commenting on the bottom 3 as they are the ones with points deducted and therefore it should be a forgone conclusion that we don't have to think about relegation, as for where we end up let's get those points back first and then see shall we.
Posted by: mccherry, dorset on 7:09pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Looks like 17 points is going to be a standard deduction in the future .In which case many other teams could drop below us when we have afew points and they hit problems . Mind you it does make me feel sick to remember all the wingeing we heard from L**ds and Ba*e* . Because of the way they threatened legal action the FL have changed the rules so we have to accept the decision of their kangaroo court or go forth ! Still at least we have a club to follow . See you on Saturday .
Looks like 17 points is going to be a standard deduction in the future .In which case many other teams could drop below us when we have afew points and they hit problems . Mind you it does make me feel sick to remember all the wingeing we heard from L**ds and Ba*e* . Because of the way they threatened legal action the FL have changed the rules so we have to accept the decision of their kangaroo court or go forth ! Still at least we have a club to follow . See you on Saturday .
Posted by: Richard Mayes on 7:11pm Thu 7 Aug 08
The usual gaging clause I see to stop any legal challenges, but 27 points is a huge punishment and no allowance made for paying off the previous insolvency, it was this that left the Club without assets. Still dont let the ****** grind us down,we are good enough to be in mid table by Christmas - just avoid injuries.[bold]bold[/bold] [bold]bold[/bold]
The usual gaging clause I see to stop any legal challenges, but 27 points is a huge punishment and no allowance made for paying off the previous insolvency, it was this that left the Club without assets. Still dont let the ****** grind us down,we are good enough to be in mid table by Christmas - just avoid injuries.
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 7:12pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Nick71[/bold] wrote:
KB has his excuse for failure already made for him. No need to blame anyone else now![/quote] What!!! are you really telling me this is what you expect now, after all we have been through your first comment after knowing we have a team this season is that Bond has his excuses, are you for real, I just don't get some people. I may not like the fact we start on -17 but I am over the moon that we have a team and league football to watch, surely that is what we all want isn't it or am I not seeing the whole picture here? This is the new start we wanted ok it comes with conditions but only a few hours ago it was looking like we were not getting it, so come on leave Bond out of this and be happy we have a team to support.
Nick71 wrote:
KB has his excuse for failure already made for him. No need to blame anyone else now!
What!!! are you really telling me this is what you expect now, after all we have been through your first comment after knowing we have a team this season is that Bond has his excuses, are you for real, I just don't get some people. I may not like the fact we start on -17 but I am over the moon that we have a team and league football to watch, surely that is what we all want isn't it or am I not seeing the whole picture here? This is the new start we wanted ok it comes with conditions but only a few hours ago it was looking like we were not getting it, so come on leave Bond out of this and be happy we have a team to support.
Posted by: AFCB AL on 7:16pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Cheerful[/bold] wrote:
B*****ds at the FL make the rules up as they go along[/quote] Bang on.
The FL are a disgrace. Trying to kill AFCB, Luton, Rotherham etgc and replace them with non-entity clubs (eg Rushden, Boston et al). They have sold out on the smaller clubs so many times now. Where is the unity between such clubs?
The FL will only be happy when they have reduced the league from 72 to 20 clubs (you know the 'big' clubs!), probably including a few Scottish clubs and anyone else who has the MONEY to join their gang.
THIS IS FOOTBALL - its about the playing of a GAME - without the playing there is nothing. Sack these power-crazed idiots.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!!
Cheerful wrote:
B*****ds at the FL make the rules up as they go along
Bang on.
The FL are a disgrace. Trying to kill AFCB, Luton, Rotherham etgc and replace them with non-entity clubs (eg Rushden, Boston et al). They have sold out on the smaller clubs so many times now. Where is the unity between such clubs?
The FL will only be happy when they have reduced the league from 72 to 20 clubs (you know the 'big' clubs!), probably including a few Scottish clubs and anyone else who has the MONEY to join their gang.
THIS IS FOOTBALL - its about the playing of a GAME - without the playing there is nothing. Sack these power-crazed idiots.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!!
Posted by: Jim, Bournemouth on 7:17pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Just looking though some past league tables, 2nd bottom team has gained anything between 29 and 47 points in recent seasons. We could need as much as 65 points on the pitch to survive in a worst case scenario. That's 'nearly flirting with the playoffs' form or upper mid table - hopefully we can manage that. Fingers crossed!
Just looking though some past league tables, 2nd bottom team has gained anything between 29 and 47 points in recent seasons. We could need as much as 65 points on the pitch to survive in a worst case scenario. That's 'nearly flirting with the playoffs' form or upper mid table - hopefully we can manage that. Fingers crossed!
Posted by: Nick71, Poole on 7:18pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Bond is a failing manager who spent most of last season blaming everyone and his uncle for his lack of leadership - nothing can change that fact.
Bond is a failing manager who spent most of last season blaming everyone and his uncle for his lack of leadership - nothing can change that fact.
Posted by: mike, poole on 7:23pm Thu 7 Aug 08
I still can't understand why Leeds were 'docked' 15 points last season and we have 'lost' 17. I would have loved the club to challenge the outcome, but there's no way...a 'win' 'win' for the FL
I still can't understand why Leeds were 'docked' 15 points last season and we have 'lost' 17. I would have loved the club to challenge the outcome, but there's no way...a 'win' 'win' for the FL
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 7:25pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Jim[/bold] wrote:
Just looking though some past league tables, 2nd bottom team has gained anything between 29 and 47 points in recent seasons. We could need as much as 65 points on the pitch to survive in a worst case scenario. That's 'nearly flirting with the playoffs' form or upper mid table - hopefully we can manage that. Fingers crossed![/quote] With Rotherham also starting on -17 points our aim is to be one point better off than them, that is all there is to worry about with relegation and I for one am not concerned about that, we should be looking up, also there are other teams who could very well go into admin this season so we could find ourselves getting to zero points with 4 or 5 teams below us, it's going to be one very odd season but a season in which we get to watch the cherries and I am thankful for that, roll on Saturday.
Jim wrote:
Just looking though some past league tables, 2nd bottom team has gained anything between 29 and 47 points in recent seasons. We could need as much as 65 points on the pitch to survive in a worst case scenario. That's 'nearly flirting with the playoffs' form or upper mid table - hopefully we can manage that. Fingers crossed!
With Rotherham also starting on -17 points our aim is to be one point better off than them, that is all there is to worry about with relegation and I for one am not concerned about that, we should be looking up, also there are other teams who could very well go into admin this season so we could find ourselves getting to zero points with 4 or 5 teams below us, it's going to be one very odd season but a season in which we get to watch the cherries and I am thankful for that, roll on Saturday.
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 7:26pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]mike[/bold] wrote:
I still can't understand why Leeds were 'docked' 15 points last season and we have 'lost' 17. I would have loved the club to challenge the outcome, but there's no way...a 'win' 'win' for the FL[/quote] It's because we have been in admin previously and Leeds haven't at least that's the Leagues ruling.
mike wrote:
I still can't understand why Leeds were 'docked' 15 points last season and we have 'lost' 17. I would have loved the club to challenge the outcome, but there's no way...a 'win' 'win' for the FL
It's because we have been in admin previously and Leeds haven't at least that's the Leagues ruling.
Posted by: sussexcherry, sussex on 7:27pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Could have been worse, but I think it is grossly unfair that we, or any club for that matter has no right of appeal. Even a criminal has a right to appeal, I feel that this 'rule' should be changed for the future. The FL are basically saying to the clubs, play our rules or we are taking our ball away. Now that I have had my moan, I wish KB and the lads all the best for the season, give us a season to be proud of, good luck, have a feeling we will need some !!
Could have been worse, but I think it is grossly unfair that we, or any club for that matter has no right of appeal. Even a criminal has a right to appeal, I feel that this 'rule' should be changed for the future. The FL are basically saying to the clubs, play our rules or we are taking our ball away. Now that I have had my moan, I wish KB and the lads all the best for the season, give us a season to be proud of, good luck, have a feeling we will need some !!
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 7:28pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Nick71[/bold] wrote:
Bond is a failing manager who spent most of last season blaming everyone and his uncle for his lack of leadership - nothing can change that fact.[/quote] And who gave us our best run in the league for 40 years, now is not the time to start slagging off the manager we need to start winning games from the first one and you want to attack Bond, I can't understand your thinking.
Nick71 wrote:
Bond is a failing manager who spent most of last season blaming everyone and his uncle for his lack of leadership - nothing can change that fact.
And who gave us our best run in the league for 40 years, now is not the time to start slagging off the manager we need to start winning games from the first one and you want to attack Bond, I can't understand your thinking.
Posted by: Andy, Bournemouth on 7:30pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Thanks to the Football League for another shafting. Hopefully this will bring the lads closer again like the tail end of last season.
Thanks to the Football League for another shafting. Hopefully this will bring the lads closer again like the tail end of last season.
Posted by: kenno, Sidmouth on 7:31pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Jim[/bold] wrote:
Just looking though some past league tables, 2nd bottom team has gained anything between 29 and 47 points in recent seasons. We could need as much as 65 points on the pitch to survive in a worst case scenario. That's 'nearly flirting with the playoffs' form or upper mid table - hopefully we can manage that. Fingers crossed![/quote] You are absolutely right Jim.Normally half a dozen clubs start slowly and we need to gain early wins to put pressure on those who do have a poor start.
If we can win say 5 of our first seven matches, even if we lose 2 we could be only five or six points behind these teams and they will start feeling the pressure.
Saturday is so important we must go for the three points and set the tone for our season.
Jim wrote:
Just looking though some past league tables, 2nd bottom team has gained anything between 29 and 47 points in recent seasons. We could need as much as 65 points on the pitch to survive in a worst case scenario. That's 'nearly flirting with the playoffs' form or upper mid table - hopefully we can manage that. Fingers crossed!
You are absolutely right Jim.Normally half a dozen clubs start slowly and we need to gain early wins to put pressure on those who do have a poor start.
If we can win say 5 of our first seven matches, even if we lose 2 we could be only five or six points behind these teams and they will start feeling the pressure.
Saturday is so important we must go for the three points and set the tone for our season.
Posted by: mccherry, dorset on 7:33pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]mike[/bold] wrote:
I still can't understand why Leeds were 'docked' 15 points last season and we have 'lost' 17. I would have loved the club to challenge the outcome, but there's no way...a 'win' 'win' for the FL[/quote] L**ds are still considered a "big" club by the old f ARTS at the FL & were just little insignificant bmth to them . Suggest we field a team of reserves v Cardiff on tuesday in what ever it is they call their mickey mouse cup now ! That will show them ...... ohh hang on a mo ive just realised the flaw in that !!! B'stds anyway !
mike wrote:
I still can't understand why Leeds were 'docked' 15 points last season and we have 'lost' 17. I would have loved the club to challenge the outcome, but there's no way...a 'win' 'win' for the FL
L**ds are still considered a "big" club by the old f ARTS at the FL & were just little insignificant bmth to them . Suggest we field a team of reserves v Cardiff on tuesday in what ever it is they call their mickey mouse cup now ! That will show them ...... ohh hang on a mo ive just realised the flaw in that !!! B'stds anyway !
Posted by: Nick71, Poole on 7:33pm Thu 7 Aug 08
I will be supporting the team home and away this season. But I do not expect much from the management. We won those matches at the end of last season because of the will of the players and despite the manager's lack of ambition. Bond's record is one of overall failure.
I will be supporting the team home and away this season. But I do not expect much from the management. We won those matches at the end of last season because of the will of the players and despite the manager's lack of ambition. Bond's record is one of overall failure.
Posted by: john coombes, Tiverton on 7:37pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Huckfan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Throopmill[/bold] wrote: Have they got 500k to pay by tomorrow ?[/quote] Throophill You have hit the nail on the head. The investors are now looking at another 400-500K to find, it may scare them off. Nail biting stuff!![/quote] I would assume that like most CVA agreements this sum will be paid over an agreed number of years, possibly worked out by the administrator
Huckfan wrote:
Throopmill wrote: Have they got 500k to pay by tomorrow ?
Throophill You have hit the nail on the head. The investors are now looking at another 400-500K to find, it may scare them off. Nail biting stuff!!
I would assume that like most CVA agreements this sum will be paid over an agreed number of years, possibly worked out by the administrator
Posted by: Hampshire Dorset, poole on 7:39pm Thu 7 Aug 08
-17 is harsh - particularly when Rotherham have had to leave their ground and have gone into administration twice in as many years.
-17 is harsh - particularly when Rotherham have had to leave their ground and have gone into administration twice in as many years.
Posted by: mossly, christchurch on 7:44pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Do not understand the logic of the league as we paid of our last CVA
At least we should see the team complete the season. Lets now get behind the lads. Its one of the ways they will get out of this mess which has had nothing to do with them
Do not understand the logic of the league as we paid of our last CVA
At least we should see the team complete the season. Lets now get behind the lads. Its one of the ways they will get out of this mess which has had nothing to do with them
Posted by: mike, poole on 7:58pm Thu 7 Aug 08
GMcMahon,
Thanks for that. However, how does any 'misdealing' with West Ham and Tevez result in a fine (relatively peanuts) and no points lost for the Hammers?
GMcMahon,
Thanks for that. However, how does any 'misdealing' with West Ham and Tevez result in a fine (relatively peanuts) and no points lost for the Hammers?
Posted by: ALL SEEING EYE, WESSEX on 7:59pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]mossly[/bold] wrote:
Do not understand the logic of the league as we paid of our last CVA At least we should see the team complete the season. Lets now get behind the lads. Its one of the ways they will get out of this mess which has had nothing to do with them[/quote] Nothing to do with the team?????
If we had won more games at the start of the season then we would still be in div 1 !!!!
Remember the Bond Out chants?
Memories are so short!
mossly wrote:
Do not understand the logic of the league as we paid of our last CVA At least we should see the team complete the season. Lets now get behind the lads. Its one of the ways they will get out of this mess which has had nothing to do with them
Nothing to do with the team?????
If we had won more games at the start of the season then we would still be in div 1 !!!!
Remember the Bond Out chants?
Memories are so short!
Posted by: ALL SEEING EYE, WESSEX on 8:02pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Nick71[/bold] wrote: Bond is a failing manager who spent most of last season blaming everyone and his uncle for his lack of leadership - nothing can change that fact.[/quote] And who gave us our best run in the league for 40 years, now is not the time to start slagging off the manager we need to start winning games from the first one and you want to attack Bond, I can't understand your thinking.[/quote] [bold]Still got the rose coloured glasses then Mrs Moaner![/bold]
GMcMahon wrote:
Nick71 wrote: Bond is a failing manager who spent most of last season blaming everyone and his uncle for his lack of leadership - nothing can change that fact.
And who gave us our best run in the league for 40 years, now is not the time to start slagging off the manager we need to start winning games from the first one and you want to attack Bond, I can't understand your thinking.
Still got the rose coloured glasses then Mrs Moaner! Posted by: Bigun, Bournemouth on 8:04pm Thu 7 Aug 08
AFCB-REPUBLICAN do'nt often agree with you , but in the case of Nick71, with you all the way.
AFCB-REPUBLICAN do'nt often agree with you , but in the case of Nick71, with you all the way.
Posted by: elvispresleysking, Bristol on 8:16pm Thu 7 Aug 08
-17 isn't unsurmountable and you do currently have 2 other teams on minus points which is a bonus for you as you'll be spurred on by their results and vice versa as none of you would want to be cast adrift. It should mean you catch the others up quicker.....
Personally, I don't think the 2 teams that go down will be from the 3 starting on minus points, at least 1 of you will escape if not 2. I think you have a good blend of youth and experience, Igoe and Anderton are a bonus in midfield but you have to ensure that you take the chances that they create. I am confident that you'll survive this season comfortably in mid table. My only concern is that you haven't got the cover in goal or the experience and you could do with an additional proven striker. Apart from that I think your squad is as good as it can be given your current circumstances.
Anyway here's hoping for a good start, I have Anderton and Pittman in my Daily Telegraph dream team so a hat-trick on the opening day would do nicely! Good luck for the season, stop the sniping and enjoy your football - you've still got a club to support!!!!
-17 isn't unsurmountable and you do currently have 2 other teams on minus points which is a bonus for you as you'll be spurred on by their results and vice versa as none of you would want to be cast adrift. It should mean you catch the others up quicker.....
Personally, I don't think the 2 teams that go down will be from the 3 starting on minus points, at least 1 of you will escape if not 2. I think you have a good blend of youth and experience, Igoe and Anderton are a bonus in midfield but you have to ensure that you take the chances that they create. I am confident that you'll survive this season comfortably in mid table. My only concern is that you haven't got the cover in goal or the experience and you could do with an additional proven striker. Apart from that I think your squad is as good as it can be given your current circumstances.
Anyway here's hoping for a good start, I have Anderton and Pittman in my Daily Telegraph dream team so a hat-trick on the opening day would do nicely! Good luck for the season, stop the sniping and enjoy your football - you've still got a club to support!!!!
Posted by: lp, christchurch on 8:18pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Just one thing ? has anybody from the club remarked on this yet ? there is some light but the end of this tunnel is still far away( sorry for the negativity) however if all goes well tomorrow & agreements are signed before noon then ' BRING IT ON !!!! '
Just one thing ? has anybody from the club remarked on this yet ? there is some light but the end of this tunnel is still far away( sorry for the negativity) however if all goes well tomorrow & agreements are signed before noon then ' BRING IT ON !!!! '
Posted by: Throopmill, Mt Everest on 8:24pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Come on Boscombe !!!!!
Posted by: fieldymex, mexico on 8:52pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Take a leaf out of flying leapers book.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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HHHH. Come on you Bournemouth!!!!!!!!!
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Take a leaf out of flying leapers book.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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HHHH. Come on you Bournemouth!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by: hillbillys of wareham, wareham on 8:57pm Thu 7 Aug 08
when will this league of dickenzian old men come clean and say what their objective is,and that is to gradually ostresise leagues 1 and 2 by this method.IF they put money into these divisions like they do the top two then(20 million maybe!!!! just to equal this years increase to the premierships)maybe clubs wont be in this situation and were have a far better national side with more players coming up through the grass roots.why cant the fl say to sky if you want the tv rights then you have to take at least a increase on league 1+2 and up the money.what i really want to say to the FL is not printable so il say it politely"GO FORTH AND POPULATE YOU LOAD OF COFFIN DODGERS".At least weve got saturday to look forward to.
when will this league of dickenzian old men come clean and say what their objective is,and that is to gradually ostresise leagues 1 and 2 by this method.IF they put money into these divisions like they do the top two then(20 million maybe!!!! just to equal this years increase to the premierships)maybe clubs wont be in this situation and were have a far better national side with more players coming up through the grass roots.why cant the fl say to sky if you want the tv rights then you have to take at least a increase on league 1+2 and up the money.what i really want to say to the FL is not printable so il say it politely"GO FORTH AND POPULATE YOU LOAD OF COFFIN DODGERS".At least weve got saturday to look forward to.
Posted by: Bigun, Bournemouth on 9:02pm Thu 7 Aug 08
richard.board those comments could only come from a scummer.
richard.board those comments could only come from a scummer.
Posted by: NewForestPhil, New Forest on 9:08pm Thu 7 Aug 08
richard.board - there is no special requirement for extra payment tomorrow - the CVA money will be paid over a period probably - so there should be no further problems.
Just very grateful it was not worse and pleased they have satisfied the league about funding for the season which was the biggest worry.
richard.board - there is no special requirement for extra payment tomorrow - the CVA money will be paid over a period probably - so there should be no further problems.
Just very grateful it was not worse and pleased they have satisfied the league about funding for the season which was the biggest worry.
Posted by: sussexcherry, sussex on 9:12pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]lp[/bold] wrote:
Just one thing ? has anybody from the club remarked on this yet ? there is some light but the end of this tunnel is still far away( sorry for the negativity) however if all goes well tomorrow & agreements are signed before noon then ' BRING IT ON !!!! ' [/quote] KB was on sky sports news and said that although he can buy now, its too late to bring in a striker so he will go with Brett and Jo. Also, he prefers to buy players rather than get them on loan as 'they will be our players', and that the mindset of escape is still there from last season. Worryingly though, he said that he was not sure exactly what the club still had to do to satisfy the FL tomorrow. The piece may well be re.peated tonite. When asked, Mostyn alledgedly said, 'Que sera sera' and had another sangria !!!!!!
lp wrote:
Just one thing ? has anybody from the club remarked on this yet ? there is some light but the end of this tunnel is still far away( sorry for the negativity) however if all goes well tomorrow & agreements are signed before noon then ' BRING IT ON !!!! '
KB was on sky sports news and said that although he can buy now, its too late to bring in a striker so he will go with Brett and Jo. Also, he prefers to buy players rather than get them on loan as 'they will be our players', and that the mindset of escape is still there from last season. Worryingly though, he said that he was not sure exactly what the club still had to do to satisfy the FL tomorrow. The piece may well be re.peated tonite. When asked, Mostyn alledgedly said, 'Que sera sera' and had another sangria !!!!!!
Posted by: krakow_cherry, Boscombe on 9:12pm Thu 7 Aug 08
I can't wait for the action to begin!! Hopefully the players will continue from where we left off, it will be hard though, our last taste of league two got off to an awful start, but under Bond, I think we can mix it up with teams better, so hopefully it won't take too long to adjust to life in the basement!!! Good luck boys, we're all behind you!!!!
I can't wait for the action to begin!! Hopefully the players will continue from where we left off, it will be hard though, our last taste of league two got off to an awful start, but under Bond, I think we can mix it up with teams better, so hopefully it won't take too long to adjust to life in the basement!!! Good luck boys, we're all behind you!!!!
Posted by: lp, christchurch on 9:21pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]sussexcherry[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]lp[/bold] wrote: Just one thing ? has anybody from the club remarked on this yet ? there is some light but the end of this tunnel is still far away( sorry for the negativity) however if all goes well tomorrow & agreements are signed before noon then ' BRING IT ON !!!! ' [/quote] KB was on sky sports news and said that although he can buy now, its too late to bring in a striker so he will go with Brett and Jo. Also, he prefers to buy players rather than get them on loan as 'they will be our players', and that the mindset of escape is still there from last season. Worryingly though, he said that he was not sure exactly what the club still had to do to satisfy the FL tomorrow. The piece may well be re.peated tonite. When asked, Mostyn alledgedly said, 'Que sera sera' and had another sangria !!!!!![/quote] if that paper gets signed then he can drink all the bloody sangria in spain for all i care lol
sussexcherry wrote:
lp wrote: Just one thing ? has anybody from the club remarked on this yet ? there is some light but the end of this tunnel is still far away( sorry for the negativity) however if all goes well tomorrow & agreements are signed before noon then ' BRING IT ON !!!! '
KB was on sky sports news and said that although he can buy now, its too late to bring in a striker so he will go with Brett and Jo. Also, he prefers to buy players rather than get them on loan as 'they will be our players', and that the mindset of escape is still there from last season. Worryingly though, he said that he was not sure exactly what the club still had to do to satisfy the FL tomorrow. The piece may well be re.peated tonite. When asked, Mostyn alledgedly said, 'Que sera sera' and had another sangria !!!!!!
if that paper gets signed then he can drink all the bloody sangria in spain for all i care lol
Posted by: dan, kinson on 9:25pm Thu 7 Aug 08
all about money, all i will say is what goes around comes around, these jumped up muppets at the fa have stung us here, the club have been treated like they were chasing the premiership dream over the last couple of years which is not the case, how can our club be on a level with rotherham i ask?, 'we'll treat each and every case on it's individual merits', yes right, you would look at our team and think after last season that we could go and win this league, i'm optimistic and think we can still make the playoffs, won't let that go until it's mathematically gone, boys have got to do the job, heres to 6 from 6 to get our first point on the board mid september, come on you reds.......keep up the good work kev and please fellow fans get off his case. thats the trouble with british people, we spend our lives bigging people up for their careers and when they get there we have to bring them back down at all costs. its pathetic.
all about money, all i will say is what goes around comes around, these jumped up muppets at the fa have stung us here, the club have been treated like they were chasing the premiership dream over the last couple of years which is not the case, how can our club be on a level with rotherham i ask?, 'we'll treat each and every case on it's individual merits', yes right, you would look at our team and think after last season that we could go and win this league, i'm optimistic and think we can still make the playoffs, won't let that go until it's mathematically gone, boys have got to do the job, heres to 6 from 6 to get our first point on the board mid september, come on you reds.......keep up the good work kev and please fellow fans get off his case. thats the trouble with british people, we spend our lives bigging people up for their careers and when they get there we have to bring them back down at all costs. its pathetic.
Posted by: afcbsam, Christchurch on 10:12pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Will everyone stop seeing the negative all the time!!! We've got a 17 point deduction. Just be gratefull we are not in the boots of Luton Town supporters - I know their situation was different but the Football League couldn't give a s**t about any of the teams in the Football League and because everything is done "at the discretion of the FL board", they could of given the same number of points deducted as Luton.
Give Kevin a chance, I beleived he should have gone last season but we are stuck with him and he has improved the team that he had at the start of the last season throught to the end.
Leeds made the playoffs after being on -15. We have a squad that can beat League 1 teams as we proved last season: If we can beat Swansea(1-2), Doncaster (1-2), Leyton Orient(3-1), Tranmere(2-1)...all of which were at the top end of the table, then we can beat the teams in League 2 and overcome a 17 point deduction to at least finish in the top half!!!
You can't expect a miracle. No one expected a miraculous escape from relegation last season but we nearly got it. Give it time and we will be back in league 1.
Will everyone stop seeing the negative all the time!!! We've got a 17 point deduction. Just be gratefull we are not in the boots of Luton Town supporters - I know their situation was different but the Football League couldn't give a s**t about any of the teams in the Football League and because everything is done "at the discretion of the FL board", they could of given the same number of points deducted as Luton.
Give Kevin a chance, I beleived he should have gone last season but we are stuck with him and he has improved the team that he had at the start of the last season throught to the end.
Leeds made the playoffs after being on -15. We have a squad that can beat League 1 teams as we proved last season: If we can beat Swansea(1-2), Doncaster (1-2), Leyton Orient(3-1), Tranmere(2-1)...all of which were at the top end of the table, then we can beat the teams in League 2 and overcome a 17 point deduction to at least finish in the top half!!!
You can't expect a miracle. No one expected a miraculous escape from relegation last season but we nearly got it. Give it time and we will be back in league 1.
Posted by: Paul W, Charminster, Bomo on 10:20pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]afcbsam[/bold] wrote:
Will everyone stop seeing the negative all the time!!! We've got a 17 point deduction. Just be gratefull we are not in the boots of Luton Town supporters - I know their situation was different but the Football League couldn't give a s**t about any of the teams in the Football League and because everything is done "at the discretion of the FL board", they could of given the same number of points deducted as Luton. Give Kevin a chance, I beleived he should have gone last season but we are stuck with him and he has improved the team that he had at the start of the last season throught to the end. Leeds made the playoffs after being on -15. We have a squad that can beat League 1 teams as we proved last season: If we can beat Swansea(1-2), Doncaster (1-2), Leyton Orient(3-1), Tranmere(2-1)...all of which were at the top end of the table, then we can beat the teams in League 2 and overcome a 17 point deduction to at least finish in the top half!!! You can't expect a miracle. No one expected a miraculous escape from relegation last season but we nearly got it. Give it time and we will be back in league 1.[/quote] Words right out of my mouth!
I was there when it was announced at Dean Court today with the new directors. this is a new start guys. Saturday is a fresh start. simple. well get there!
afcbsam wrote:
Will everyone stop seeing the negative all the time!!! We've got a 17 point deduction. Just be gratefull we are not in the boots of Luton Town supporters - I know their situation was different but the Football League couldn't give a s**t about any of the teams in the Football League and because everything is done "at the discretion of the FL board", they could of given the same number of points deducted as Luton. Give Kevin a chance, I beleived he should have gone last season but we are stuck with him and he has improved the team that he had at the start of the last season throught to the end. Leeds made the playoffs after being on -15. We have a squad that can beat League 1 teams as we proved last season: If we can beat Swansea(1-2), Doncaster (1-2), Leyton Orient(3-1), Tranmere(2-1)...all of which were at the top end of the table, then we can beat the teams in League 2 and overcome a 17 point deduction to at least finish in the top half!!! You can't expect a miracle. No one expected a miraculous escape from relegation last season but we nearly got it. Give it time and we will be back in league 1.
Words right out of my mouth!
I was there when it was announced at Dean Court today with the new directors. this is a new start guys. Saturday is a fresh start. simple. well get there!
Posted by: hillbillys of wareham, wareham on 12:03am Fri 8 Aug 08
nice to read so many positives and at last ill pick up my season tickets for the family tomorrow. B.T.I.D.
nice to read so many positives and at last ill pick up my season tickets for the family tomorrow. B.T.I.D.
Posted by: hillbillys of wareham, wareham on 12:11am Fri 8 Aug 08
[quote][bold]sussexcherry[/bold] wrote:
Could have been worse, but I think it is grossly unfair that we, or any club for that matter has no right of appeal. Even a criminal has a right to appeal, I feel that this 'rule' should be changed for the future. The FL are basically saying to the clubs, play our rules or we are taking our ball away. Now that I have had my moan, I wish KB and the lads all the best for the season, give us a season to be proud of, good luck, have a feeling we will need some !![/quote] i always thought blackmail was against the law,but then the F.L dont recognise the law just ask mr barton on his 85k.
sussexcherry wrote:
Could have been worse, but I think it is grossly unfair that we, or any club for that matter has no right of appeal. Even a criminal has a right to appeal, I feel that this 'rule' should be changed for the future. The FL are basically saying to the clubs, play our rules or we are taking our ball away. Now that I have had my moan, I wish KB and the lads all the best for the season, give us a season to be proud of, good luck, have a feeling we will need some !!
i always thought blackmail was against the law,but then the F.L dont recognise the law just ask mr barton on his 85k.
Posted by: russelljohns, bournemouth on 12:11am Fri 8 Aug 08
bournemouth till i die and if that means in the confrence, leauge 2 or leauge 1 next year im still bournemouth till i die, we still have a football club in the greatest town in the country with great supporters lets pack the stadium and show them we wont be beat by cheering the lads on. forget the negative comments COME ON BOURNEMOUTH
bournemouth till i die and if that means in the confrence, leauge 2 or leauge 1 next year im still bournemouth till i die, we still have a football club in the greatest town in the country with great supporters lets pack the stadium and show them we wont be beat by cheering the lads on. forget the negative comments COME ON BOURNEMOUTH
Posted by: AFCBade, Croydon on 12:15am Fri 8 Aug 08
Please confirm my logic:
if we had settled the CVA upfront we would have had no points deducted.
All we have done is get the 17 points deducted and still have to settle the CVA.
Surely Mostyn/Krasner knew this since the FL have been consistent on this since Leeds last season?
As S-6 said they have funds to pay the CVA, if need be, we seem to have been hit for 17 points for no value at all.
Given the CVA is paid over a period of time then why not do this before today?
Anyway I think the deduction will bind the team together and as long as we dont sell Jo to pay for the CVA, I think we will do well.
Given the credit crunch, I reckon 2 more teams will be in admin before the end of the season.
Please confirm my logic:
if we had settled the CVA upfront we would have had no points deducted.
All we have done is get the 17 points deducted and still have to settle the CVA.
Surely Mostyn/Krasner knew this since the FL have been consistent on this since Leeds last season?
As S-6 said they have funds to pay the CVA, if need be, we seem to have been hit for 17 points for no value at all.
Given the CVA is paid over a period of time then why not do this before today?
Anyway I think the deduction will bind the team together and as long as we dont sell Jo to pay for the CVA, I think we will do well.
Given the credit crunch, I reckon 2 more teams will be in admin before the end of the season.
Posted by: afcbsam, Christchurch on 12:21am Fri 8 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCBade[/bold] wrote:
Please confirm my logic: if we had settled the CVA upfront we would have had no points deducted. All we have done is get the 17 points deducted and still have to settle the CVA. Surely Mostyn/Krasner knew this since the FL have been consistent on this since Leeds last season? As S-6 said they have funds to pay the CVA, if need be, we seem to have been hit for 17 points for no value at all. Given the CVA is paid over a period of time then why not do this before today? Anyway I think the deduction will bind the team together and as long as we dont sell Jo to pay for the CVA, I think we will do well. Given the credit crunch, I reckon 2 more teams will be in admin before the end of the season. [/quote] we only have to settle the CVA with unsecurred creditors at the value that was offered at the time of the original CVA (10p in the pound. costing £500,000)
AFCBade wrote:
Please confirm my logic: if we had settled the CVA upfront we would have had no points deducted. All we have done is get the 17 points deducted and still have to settle the CVA. Surely Mostyn/Krasner knew this since the FL have been consistent on this since Leeds last season? As S-6 said they have funds to pay the CVA, if need be, we seem to have been hit for 17 points for no value at all. Given the CVA is paid over a period of time then why not do this before today? Anyway I think the deduction will bind the team together and as long as we dont sell Jo to pay for the CVA, I think we will do well. Given the credit crunch, I reckon 2 more teams will be in admin before the end of the season.
we only have to settle the CVA with unsecurred creditors at the value that was offered at the time of the original CVA (10p in the pound. costing £500,000)
Posted by: afcbsam, Christchurch on 12:27am Fri 8 Aug 08
[quote][bold]russelljohns[/bold] wrote:
bournemouth till i die and if that means in the confrence, leauge 2 or leauge 1 next year im still bournemouth till i die, we still have a football club in the greatest town in the country with great supporters lets pack the stadium and show them we wont be beat by cheering the lads on. forget the negative comments COME ON BOURNEMOUTH[/quote] I just wish all of the supporters felt the same way as you russelljohns.
russelljohns wrote:
bournemouth till i die and if that means in the confrence, leauge 2 or leauge 1 next year im still bournemouth till i die, we still have a football club in the greatest town in the country with great supporters lets pack the stadium and show them we wont be beat by cheering the lads on. forget the negative comments COME ON BOURNEMOUTH
I just wish all of the supporters felt the same way as you russelljohns.
Posted by: richard.board, southampton on 1:54am Fri 8 Aug 08
tHE QUESTION ON EVERYBODYS LIPS IS THERE ANY MILEAGE WITHIS LOT-FINANCE WISE.
lETS HOPE THEY HAVE GOT MONEY
tHE QUESTION ON EVERYBODYS LIPS IS THERE ANY MILEAGE WITHIS LOT-FINANCE WISE.
lETS HOPE THEY HAVE GOT MONEY
Posted by: afcbelite, Wareham on 6:09am Fri 8 Aug 08
On Wednesday night the FL were not satisfied with the viability of the plan.
By Thursday night they've offered our share back with conditions.
What happened in those 24 hrs for them to change their minds re viability?
On Wednesday night the FL were not satisfied with the viability of the plan.
By Thursday night they've offered our share back with conditions.
What happened in those 24 hrs for them to change their minds re viability?
Posted by: France Cherry, France on 6:40am Fri 8 Aug 08
Here we go again, one rule for the rich & one for the poor. Why a larger deduction than Leeds but more to the point why have we got to sign away our right to appeal That is totally unaccpetable and tantamount to having a gun put to our heads. The FL is a disgrace, tell me how the punishment fits the crime. When West Ham used an ineligible player (Tevez) and managed to stay in the Thatcher League (so called because it is based on greed and not giving a f*** for anybody else) becaues of this they were just fined by the FA, I am sure they were delighted. Why were they only fined - because they are a big boy, they threatened legal action if anything affected their TL status and money rules. As somebody very famous (forget who) once said laws are like a spiders web they cactch the flies but let the wasps and hornets through!
Here we go again, one rule for the rich & one for the poor. Why a larger deduction than Leeds but more to the point why have we got to sign away our right to appeal That is totally unaccpetable and tantamount to having a gun put to our heads. The FL is a disgrace, tell me how the punishment fits the crime. When West Ham used an ineligible player (Tevez) and managed to stay in the Thatcher League (so called because it is based on greed and not giving a f*** for anybody else) becaues of this they were just fined by the FA, I am sure they were delighted. Why were they only fined - because they are a big boy, they threatened legal action if anything affected their TL status and money rules. As somebody very famous (forget who) once said laws are like a spiders web they cactch the flies but let the wasps and hornets through!
Posted by: mikeg, Devon on 6:50am Fri 8 Aug 08
It is going to be great season, lets get behind the lads and KB, makes the 2 games against my next door neighbours team of Exeter exciting, come on you Cherries!!!!
It is going to be great season, lets get behind the lads and KB, makes the 2 games against my next door neighbours team of Exeter exciting, come on you Cherries!!!!
Posted by: alumchineboy, Alumchine on 7:26am Fri 8 Aug 08
I was in two minds to go on saturday as I have to take the other half to gatwick but this situation starting on -17 has led me to think that if I can do my bit and shout and scream and go along then hopefully the players and do theirs on the pitch. If anything it could bond the players and fans especially if we do well.
She can get the train.
I'm looking forward to Aldershot away the week after - remember those 70's days local derbys , jumpers for goalposts..... i've got my ticket already.
I was in two minds to go on saturday as I have to take the other half to gatwick but this situation starting on -17 has led me to think that if I can do my bit and shout and scream and go along then hopefully the players and do theirs on the pitch. If anything it could bond the players and fans especially if we do well.
She can get the train.
I'm looking forward to Aldershot away the week after - remember those 70's days local derbys , jumpers for goalposts..... i've got my ticket already.
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ME ON YOU CHERRIES-- 3-1 SAT--WIN-ALL U LUCKY, LUCKY,GIRLS AND BOYS-MAY THE WIND AND TIDE B WITH YE-AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
HH ME HARTIES-SAIL UP THE LEAGUE WE WILL
YO HO YO HO ITS A CHERRIES LIFE 4 ME--------AAAAAAAAAA
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ME ON YOU CHERRIES-- 3-1 SAT--WIN-ALL U LUCKY, LUCKY,GIRLS AND BOYS-MAY THE WIND AND TIDE B WITH YE-AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
HH ME HARTIES-SAIL UP THE LEAGUE WE WILL
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 7:31am Fri 8 Aug 08
[quote][bold]ALL SEEING EYE[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Nick71[/bold] wrote: Bond is a failing manager who spent most of last season blaming everyone and his uncle for his lack of leadership - nothing can change that fact.[/quote] And who gave us our best run in the league for 40 years, now is not the time to start slagging off the manager we need to start winning games from the first one and you want to attack Bond, I can't understand your thinking.[/quote] [bold]Still got the rose coloured glasses then Mrs Moaner![/bold] [/quote] Thought you said Mostyn wouldn't get the club out of admin and we should all wait for these people waiting in the wings, so you got that wrong and now the best you have is to try and wind me up because of our record at the end of last season, well you blew it you got it wrong accept go get your nappy changed and leave the football to the big boys, sound familiar does it.
ALL SEEING EYE wrote:
GMcMahon wrote:
Nick71 wrote: Bond is a failing manager who spent most of last season blaming everyone and his uncle for his lack of leadership - nothing can change that fact.
And who gave us our best run in the league for 40 years, now is not the time to start slagging off the manager we need to start winning games from the first one and you want to attack Bond, I can't understand your thinking.
Still got the rose coloured glasses then Mrs Moaner!
Thought you said Mostyn wouldn't get the club out of admin and we should all wait for these people waiting in the wings, so you got that wrong and now the best you have is to try and wind me up because of our record at the end of last season, well you blew it you got it wrong accept go get your nappy changed and leave the football to the big boys, sound familiar does it.
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 7:40am Fri 8 Aug 08
[quote][bold]richard.board[/bold] wrote:
tHE QUESTION ON EVERYBODYS LIPS IS THERE ANY MILEAGE WITHIS LOT-FINANCE WISE.
lETS HOPE THEY HAVE GOT MONEY[/quote] No it's not, the question will be what's the starting line up for Saturday, can we please get away from the negative stuff there has been enough of it over the summer let's get back to being cherries fans and get behind the manager and team, we have a new start let's start positive UTCIAD.
richard.board wrote:
tHE QUESTION ON EVERYBODYS LIPS IS THERE ANY MILEAGE WITHIS LOT-FINANCE WISE.
lETS HOPE THEY HAVE GOT MONEY
No it's not, the question will be what's the starting line up for Saturday, can we please get away from the negative stuff there has been enough of it over the summer let's get back to being cherries fans and get behind the manager and team, we have a new start let's start positive UTCIAD.
Posted by: mgale, Poole on 8:35am Fri 8 Aug 08
We have been given the same points as Rotherham as both clubs have been in administration twice in 'recent years' as the FL put it. It does not matter if we paid off our last cva or not. Leeds only got 15 as it was their first admin. Also, we only have to pay what we previously offered to the creditors, approx 10p in the pound. To have not had any points docked, we would have had to agree a cva with the creditors, and knowing the Inland Rev and others involved, this would have taken at least 80p in the pound or more, which no new owner was ever going to fund, so we take the hit. At the forum, S6 said there was funds in place to pay the cva offer if the FL imposed it, but I assume the 10p in the pound will have to be paid in full straight away as the FL imposed it as a condition of the new company. Lets be honest, if this was any other business other than a football team, we would have been shut down as there are no 'exceptional circumstances' anywhere else !!. I was speaking with the new owners last night whilst I queued for 2.5 hrs for my season tickets, and he said the stuff that the FL wanted between Wednesday's statement and yesterday was not financial and the club would make a full statement to explain, but wanted to wait until he had the golden share in his hand. Must say the players and staff in the ticket office did a great job last night under difficult circumstances. Kate deserves a big bunch of flowers !! UTCIAD
We have been given the same points as Rotherham as both clubs have been in administration twice in 'recent years' as the FL put it. It does not matter if we paid off our last cva or not. Leeds only got 15 as it was their first admin. Also, we only have to pay what we previously offered to the creditors, approx 10p in the pound. To have not had any points docked, we would have had to agree a cva with the creditors, and knowing the Inland Rev and others involved, this would have taken at least 80p in the pound or more, which no new owner was ever going to fund, so we take the hit. At the forum, S6 said there was funds in place to pay the cva offer if the FL imposed it, but I assume the 10p in the pound will have to be paid in full straight away as the FL imposed it as a condition of the new company. Lets be honest, if this was any other business other than a football team, we would have been shut down as there are no 'exceptional circumstances' anywhere else !!. I was speaking with the new owners last night whilst I queued for 2.5 hrs for my season tickets, and he said the stuff that the FL wanted between Wednesday's statement and yesterday was not financial and the club would make a full statement to explain, but wanted to wait until he had the golden share in his hand. Must say the players and staff in the ticket office did a great job last night under difficult circumstances. Kate deserves a big bunch of flowers !! UTCIAD
Posted by: f9073860, bournemouth on 8:39am Fri 8 Aug 08
[quote][bold]frankfidler[/bold] wrote:
it could have been worse. at least we know where we are.we have game on on sat and a team to shout for and lets all rally round and no more negative sniping. come on you cherries. ps any of you guys out there remember nelson stiffle[/quote] nelson stiffle - the anglo-african winger.
played for exeter city too, apparently.
frankfidler wrote:
it could have been worse. at least we know where we are.we have game on on sat and a team to shout for and lets all rally round and no more negative sniping. come on you cherries. ps any of you guys out there remember nelson stiffle
nelson stiffle - the anglo-african winger.
played for exeter city too, apparently.
Posted by: free wessex, dorset on 9:18am Fri 8 Aug 08
2. The club must provide a legal waiver indicating that it will not challenge or appeal this decision.
Watch the FL for consistancy on this one in the future,
As it states the club cannot appeal but not an individual any takers in the legal sphere interested in a test case?
2. The club must provide a legal waiver indicating that it will not challenge or appeal this decision.
Watch the FL for consistancy on this one in the future,
As it states the club cannot appeal but not an individual any takers in the legal sphere interested in a test case?
Posted by: threestands, Bournemouth on 9:54am Fri 8 Aug 08
Just a thought. Many of you are whingeing about the FL imposing a 17 point deduction. But what about the many local businesses who will only get 10p in the pound from AFCB???? With the threat of a points deduction badly run football clubs will not have an incentive to put their finances in order. Not all lower league clubs are badly run like AFCB.
Just a thought. Many of you are whingeing about the FL imposing a 17 point deduction. But what about the many local businesses who will only get 10p in the pound from AFCB???? With the threat of a points deduction badly run football clubs will not have an incentive to put their finances in order. Not all lower league clubs are badly run like AFCB.
Posted by: JamesR, Poole on 10:05am Fri 8 Aug 08
The FL know nothing about insolvency and are making up the rules as they go along. You do not need a CVA to exit administration as there are a number of other options for the administrator.
The FL know nothing about insolvency and are making up the rules as they go along. You do not need a CVA to exit administration as there are a number of other options for the administrator.
Posted by: frankfidler, florida usa on 12:20pm Fri 8 Aug 08
[quote][bold]f9073860[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]frankfidler[/bold] wrote:
it could have been worse. at least we know where we are.we have game on on sat and a team to shout for and lets all rally round and no more negative sniping. come on you cherries. ps any of you guys out there remember nelson stiffle[/quote] nelson stiffle - the anglo-african winger.
played for exeter city too, apparently.[/quote] thats him, one of the fastest cherries players i ever saw. anyone remember bill coxon who had the strongest free kick i ever saw?
f9073860 wrote:
frankfidler wrote:
it could have been worse. at least we know where we are.we have game on on sat and a team to shout for and lets all rally round and no more negative sniping. come on you cherries. ps any of you guys out there remember nelson stiffle
nelson stiffle - the anglo-african winger.
played for exeter city too, apparently.
thats him, one of the fastest cherries players i ever saw. anyone remember bill coxon who had the strongest free kick i ever saw?
Posted by: cherryfan, Horndean on 12:29pm Fri 8 Aug 08
The FL are a bunch shisters. Funny isn't it how they delayed and delayed then 48 hours they say take -17 pts or don't play Saturday ultimatum. We have no choice but to comply do we! No time to appeal any decisions. These guys jobs rely on football fans and their teams yet here they are trying to screw the grass roots. Thanks a lot you so and so's(would have used stronger language but...)
The FL are a bunch shisters. Funny isn't it how they delayed and delayed then 48 hours they say take -17 pts or don't play Saturday ultimatum. We have no choice but to comply do we! No time to appeal any decisions. These guys jobs rely on football fans and their teams yet here they are trying to screw the grass roots. Thanks a lot you so and so's(would have used stronger language but...)
Posted by: d.butland, northampton on 9:57pm Fri 8 Aug 08
Although you have got a 17 points deduction to start the season off, I actually believe you will turn it around and will still be in the league at the end of the season. Remember what Leeds did last season. Be positive and good luck. PS I am a Northampton Town supporter.
Although you have got a 17 points deduction to start the season off, I actually believe you will turn it around and will still be in the league at the end of the season. Remember what Leeds did last season. Be positive and good luck. PS I am a Northampton Town supporter.
Posted by: paul, poole on 2:15am Sat 9 Aug 08
17 points is ridiculous. What's the Point of doing this? It just makes everything harder...help the Team not hinder them! Why doesn't the FA deduct points from Man utd or Arsenal for earning too much money?
17 points is ridiculous. What's the Point of doing this? It just makes everything harder...help the Team not hinder them! Why doesn't the FA deduct points from Man utd or Arsenal for earning too much money?
Posted by: Simonh Crane, Bournemouth on 2:12pm Sat 9 Aug 08
[quote][bold]mike[/bold] wrote:
GMcMahon, Thanks for that. However, how does any 'misdealing' with West Ham and Tevez result in a fine (relatively peanuts) and no points lost for the Hammers?[/quote] blah blah blah COYI!!!
don't start slagging the Hammers mate they've helped you guys out in the past.
blame the FL and bad management. Personally I hope the cherries have a blinding season, look how well Leeds responded! nothing works as well at bonding a team as a bit of shared adversity,
have allways followed the cherries since i moved down here and wish them all the best!!
mike wrote:
GMcMahon, Thanks for that. However, how does any 'misdealing' with West Ham and Tevez result in a fine (relatively peanuts) and no points lost for the Hammers?
blah blah blah COYI!!!
don't start slagging the Hammers mate they've helped you guys out in the past.
blame the FL and bad management. Personally I hope the cherries have a blinding season, look how well Leeds responded! nothing works as well at bonding a team as a bit of shared adversity,
have allways followed the cherries since i moved down here and wish them all the best!!
Posted by: kudos, Fareham on 4:58pm Mon 11 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Hampshire Dorset[/bold] wrote:
-17 is harsh - particularly when Rotherham have had to leave their ground and have gone into administration twice in as many years. [/quote] Exactly, it's a crap ruling and to be fair it's incredbily harsh to both Rotherham and Luton as well.
Hampshire Dorset wrote:
-17 is harsh - particularly when Rotherham have had to leave their ground and have gone into administration twice in as many years.
Exactly, it's a crap ruling and to be fair it's incredbily harsh to both Rotherham and Luton as well.
Posted by: kudos, Fareham on 5:01pm Mon 11 Aug 08
[quote][bold]paul[/bold] wrote:
17 points is ridiculous. What's the Point of doing this? It just makes everything harder...help the Team not hinder them! Why doesn't the FA deduct points from Man utd or Arsenal for earning too much money?[/quote] Loads of big clubs are actually in debt by quite a bit, but it's deemed as sustainable.
I think someone recently was trying to kick Man Utd out of Europe over it.
paul wrote:
17 points is ridiculous. What's the Point of doing this? It just makes everything harder...help the Team not hinder them! Why doesn't the FA deduct points from Man utd or Arsenal for earning too much money?
Loads of big clubs are actually in debt by quite a bit, but it's deemed as sustainable.
I think someone recently was trying to kick Man Utd out of Europe over it.
Posted by: kudos, Fareham on 5:07pm Mon 11 Aug 08
It's no different from any other business going under!
Your arguement doesn't hold any water.
A rich person buys a club and leaves it in a state.
How does punishing the new owner(s), the club, the players and the fans act as incentive!?!
I think you need to think through your [italic]thoughts[/italic] before you post...
It's no different from any other business going under!
Your arguement doesn't hold any water.
A rich person buys a club and leaves it in a state.
How does punishing the new owner(s), the club, the players and the fans act as incentive!?!
I think you need to think through your
thoughts before you post...
Posted by: kudos, Fareham on 5:07pm Mon 11 Aug 08
[quote][bold]threestands[/bold] wrote:
Just a thought. Many of you are whingeing about the FL imposing a 17 point deduction. But what about the many local businesses who will only get 10p in the pound from AFCB???? With the threat of a points deduction badly run football clubs will not have an incentive to put their finances in order. Not all lower league clubs are badly run like AFCB.[/quote] ^^ See above ^^
threestands wrote:
Just a thought. Many of you are whingeing about the FL imposing a 17 point deduction. But what about the many local businesses who will only get 10p in the pound from AFCB???? With the threat of a points deduction badly run football clubs will not have an incentive to put their finances in order. Not all lower league clubs are badly run like AFCB.
^^ See above ^^
